I Find It Incredibly Sad Rugby Is Put B4 Footie!

[El Presidente]

Surely there is room for all. I agree about the attitude of rugby players. It's a hard game, yet they still have enough self control to call the referee 'sir' and the ref's can be miked up. If that happened with the likes of Keane on the field it would be X-Rated.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

To me England winning the Rugby World Cup is almost equatable to Sussex winning the county championship - when the dust settles you realise that it doesn't mean that much to many people. You just cannot compare England winning the Rugby World Cup to England winning the footy World Cup. Rugby's is hardly a 'World' cup, with most European countries not represented, as well as Asia and almost the entire African continent. To paraphrase a Manchester City anecdote: "If England were playing in the Rugby World Cup final at the bottom of my garden I'd draw the curtains"

 

[Bwian]

at the end of the day we are no where near good enough to go up this year (you may slate me but you mostly know its true) and with the lack of funding for the team its really not going to change ,so i couldnt care less if brighton lost on sat if england win

Spoken like a true glory hunting noveau Albion fan if ever I heard one. How the f*** can you not care less if the Albion lose for f***'s sake?

"We 're not very good this year and there's little chance of some glory so I don't care if they lose" is what you're saying. Are you one of the 'fans' we picked up during our good spell?

I want England to win the rugby and I'm sure most English sports fans do too but it's a passing emotion for most, including me. Come 3 pm on Saturday I'll have forgotten all about the rugby (regardless of result) because the Albion will be kicking off. I intend cheering England on but I won't be totally upset if we lose-if the Albion lose I will be...

The one thing that has impressed me about the rugby world cup has been the ability of all fans from all countries to get on with each other. Even the Wales v England game was trouble free-imagine that fixture in football

Football most definitely has a lot to learn from rugby fans and I hope it does.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Spoken like a true glory hunting noveau Albion fan if ever I heard one. How the f*** can you not care less if the Albion lose for f***'s sake?

"We 're not very good this year and there's little chance of some glory so I don't care if they lose" is what you're saying. Are you one of the 'fans' we picked up during our good spell?

I want England to win the rugby and I'm sure most English sports fans do too but it's a passing emotion for most, including me. Come 3 pm on Saturday I'll have forgotten all about the rugby (regardless of result) because the Albion will be kicking off. I intend cheering England on but I won't be totally upset if we lose-if the Albion lose I will be...

The one thing that has impressed me about the rugby world cup has been the ability of all fans from all countries to get on with each other. Even the Wales v England game was trouble free-imagine that fixture in football

Football most definitely has a lot to learn from rugby fans and I hope it does.

f*** off im a glory hunter i went to all but 10 games at gillingham what glory times they were i had a season ticket for the first two years at withdean but then couldnt afford it so why make statements that you cant back up, cock

 

[Sorrel]

To be honest I always had problems with the attitude that they'd rather Albion got promoted than England win the Football World Cup. We have polls on it here occasionally, and Albion promotion always beats a World Cup win.

But I don't agree. Since the last World Cup win there've been many Albion promotions, and no World Cup wins. To me a World Cup success is something rare and special, something longer lasting and of more importance than my teams league placing in just one year. Would people really have prefered the one season in Division One last year to England being World Champions? I would much rather have had the World Cup win.

As for the Rugby, I'll be watching on Saturday. I'm not much of a rugby fan (I've never been to a game, so I'm an 'armchair' fan, and I don't quite understand the rules for who throws in when there's a line out - it seems to change depending on whether the ball is kicked or run over the line) but I want England to win.

 

[Bwian]

f*** off im a glory hunter i went to all but 10 games at gillingham what glory times they were i had a season ticket for the first two years at withdean but then couldnt afford it so why make statements that you cant back up, cock

It was based on your statement that you couldn't care less if the Albion lost if England win because we're not having a good season and will not go up anyway. You did say that didn't you? And you call me cock?

 

[Bez]

Easy now lads. Get up to nottingham for 9 watch the rugger then get even more pissed watch the albion get a bit more pissed then come home with a world cup win and 3 points. easy as

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Or do the sensible thing your Lordship and don't bother with the rugby at all and just watch the Albion.

 

[Easy 10]

I don't quite understand the rules for who throws in when there's a line out - it seems to change depending on whether the ball is kicked or run over the line) but I want England to win.

Ahh, now this I DID manage to suss out.
If the player kicks the ball straight out into touch, then its the other teams lineout. If the player kicks the ball and it lands within the field of play, and then rolls (or wobbles) into touch, then its the kickers teams lineout.

 

[Icy Gull]

Ahh, now this I DID manage to suss out.
If the player kicks the ball straight out into touch, then its the other teams lineout. If the player kicks the ball and it lands within the field of play, and then rolls (or wobbles) into touch, then its the kickers teams lineout.

Either way it's the other teams line out, unless it's touched by the opposing team or it was a penalty. Penalties always give the kicking team the throw in, if the ball goes into touch .

You can kick the ball (and generally should) straight into touch if you receive the ball inside your own 22 metre line. You cannot carry it back in and kick it straight into touch. Kicking outside your 22 metre line the ball has to bounce before going into touch or else the throw in takes place from where the ball was kicked from.

The other rule that may seem a bit strange if you are not familiar with it is that if a player is fouled after kicking the ball, the resulting penalty takes place where the ball landed.

At the risk of being called a fair weather fan I have to say this weekends rugby is much more important to me than the Albion result.

 

[Easy 10]

D'oh

 

[Brovion]

Bit of a side-track here, it took me a while to suss out all the rules on penalties and line-outs, I'm definitely not 100% sure on all Rugby rules but I can pretty much spot the more obvioius offences now (offside, not releasing the ball, ball not being out of the scrum, hands in the ruck, coming in from the side etc).

However I had to learn a lot of these in the company of rugby-playing friends, both BBC and ITV make the assumption that you already know the rules and there is no 'new viewers start here' program to explain them to newbies. When C4 first started showing American football they knew no one understood it so they went to great kengths to explain the rules, plays, etc.

For any sport it's so much better when you understand what's going on. When I first started watching rugby I found it very boring because I had no idea why players did certain things - somebody would kick the ball, it would go nowhere near the goal instead it would bounce out for a throw - and everybody would clap! Now I know what's happening I think it's a superb sport.

 

[Easy 10]

Good shout Brovian.
We need educating !!

 

[tinx]

I used to play the sport and enjoyed playing. But I find watching rugby very boring I know the rules and how each player is suppose dto play but I fail to get excited by the sport. I don't plan on watching the final on saturday as I am plainly not interested. Yes it will be great for england to win but I honestly won't be that bothered either way and I do care fart more about 3 points at notts county on saturday.

My opinion is also that supporting the albion is a large part of my life which is why I care so much about what happens to them, whereas cheering on any other team in any sport is not as I don't spend so much time and money on it.

I find it incredible how many people all of a sudden are huge rugby fans but I bet most of these people couldn't name what club teams half the england side actually play for and scaringly ther ear ealso some more who couldn't even name the squad that England have playing.

 

[Icy Gull]

ITV commentators are bloody irritating. Refs are miked up and explain the reasons for every decision. Up their own arse ex players that are commentating choose to generally "talk over" over the ref. Even if you know the rules it is easy to miss something the ref spotted. You'll never know why certain decisions are made because the commentators are waffling away to each other and you can't hear the ref

 

[DTES]

To beat them on their own patch in the final of a major sporting event would be brilliant - especially if we can do it without scoring any tries.

Surprised about the second bit there. I'd rather we scored a few tries on the way to beating them. If we beat just with Johnny's boot, it would be incredible, but to do it outscoring them with tries aswell, for them to have absolutely no complaints/comments, knowing they were outplayed would be even sweeter for me.

And I really don't understand people who are putting one in front of the other at all, either way. You can watch both, it just involves getting up f***ing early. Those who are watching just one "because of the clash" are actually choosing which one is less important than a good nights sleep, and there's enough of those in a life time.

 

[Brovion]

Surprised about the second bit there. I'd rather we scored a few tries on the way to beating them. If we beat just with Johnny's boot, it would be incredible, but to do it outscoring them with tries aswell, for them to have absolutely no complaints/comments, knowing they were outplayed would be even sweeter for me.

As I mentioned on another thread they've moaned about Bodyline bowling for the last 70 years, if we can win in a 'boring' fashion that will upset them far more than simply just winning. It will give them something else to whinge about! However yeah, if we do score more tries then that's great too.

Tinx - fair comments. If you don't like the game then fair enough, I personally hate F1 motor racing. I actually have very little interest in club Rugby Union (although I could name most clubs the England players play for). This is the complete opposite of football where I don't really care that much about the English national side but I care deeply about the Albion.