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How many of our current squad would be comfortable in a play off pushing team ?
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Definites
Bennett
Murray
Forster
Probably Virgo and Elphick on current form.
Dicker
Crofts
Maybe's
McNulty
Tunni
Calderon + Painter- too early to judge
Dickinson
Navarro- I know he's a quality player from seeing him play for MK a few times. Hasn't really shown his previous form, but is improving.
Definitely not
Davies
Brezovan
OGH
FDM
Cox
Whing
Hoyte
McLeod
Livermore
Bennett
Murray
Forster
Probably Virgo and Elphick on current form.
Dicker
Crofts
Maybe's
McNulty
Tunni
Calderon + Painter- too early to judge
Dickinson
Navarro- I know he's a quality player from seeing him play for MK a few times. Hasn't really shown his previous form, but is improving.
Definitely not
Davies
Brezovan
OGH
FDM
Cox
Whing
Hoyte
McLeod
Livermore
Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
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Kuipers
McNulty
Elphick
Forster
Dickinson
Tunnicliffe
Murray
Dicker
Crofts
Virgo
Bennett
I don't think our current squad is any where near as bad as people make it out to be. With a few clever additions, we should be pushing for the top 6. All we need is a consistently settled side, and anyone who disagrees should take a look at Swindon. Personally, I would say our individuals are better all over the pitch but they're 5th and we're 20th. Baffling, but they show what you can do with a settled side and consistency. That should be us, but our squad is far too big and unsettled. Hopefully, Gus will sort it all out next season.
McNulty
Elphick
Forster
Dickinson
Tunnicliffe
Murray
Dicker
Crofts
Virgo
Bennett
I don't think our current squad is any where near as bad as people make it out to be. With a few clever additions, we should be pushing for the top 6. All we need is a consistently settled side, and anyone who disagrees should take a look at Swindon. Personally, I would say our individuals are better all over the pitch but they're 5th and we're 20th. Baffling, but they show what you can do with a settled side and consistency. That should be us, but our squad is far too big and unsettled. Hopefully, Gus will sort it all out next season.
Rookie
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- Feb 8, 2005
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Look at our league position. Those games you refer to were against...
We are found wanting when playing higher teams. Maybe the players are good enough but they have not shown it
Withdean Wanderer
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Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
- 18,855
Your opinions are always good for a laugh
The feeling is mutual.
I think it's fairly safe to say our outlook on football is completely different.
Withdean Wanderer
Banned
The feeling is mutual.
You've listed 10 out of our 11 most regulars this season.
Kuipers
Virgo Tunnifcliffe Elphick McNulty
Bennett Crofts Dicker xxx
Forster Murray
There is no way that the addition of one left winger would transform us into a promotion team. Especially when Poyet plainly doesn't want to play with two wide men.
Dickinson has so far proved himself in League 2, not League 1.
Tunnicliffe has been deservedly dropped. Potential, but nothing more. Elphick and Virgo have put in so many bad performances this season already it's laughable. Dicker doesn't contribute enough to win us games. McNulty we discussed the other day - no supporter can remember him having more than one good game for the club.
Basically, you're clueless. A good team on football manager is not neccessarily a good one in real life.
Why did you say recent form then?
What like 3-1 against Saints, one of the strongest looking teams in the division? Matching a Villa A/B team for 50mins+?
Sorry just want a bit of positivity around here. We could've easily got a result in the Colchester game as well. The players aren't playing badly overall the recent form is starting to show that.
Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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Personally, I would say that it's a squad game. I would want all the players I've mentioned in the squad, but I'd also want to see a left winger added to it and a good back up goalkeeper. Elphick and Virgo are both good centre backs when fit and on form, which won't be every game all season, realistically, so the presence of a Tunnicliffe who can step in is important to have. I would even keep El-Abd as a squad player because he can fill a gap when neccessary. Dicker is being played out of position and is making the best of it, he played more centrally in the second half at Swindon and was pulling the strings completely, I know you didn't see that game as we've discussed before, but it's that sort of performance which keeps me on his side over Navarro who I don't think contributes anything, but that's old ground aswell. I think Dickinson is just another striker struggling to get in the side ahead of the brilliant Forster and Murray, but I personally think he's good enough for this league and as a back up he's a good option to have. He'd offer something different up front, and if Forster or Murray lost form/got injured, he's there to step in.
I don't think we're many players shy of being a top 6 side. As I said in the previous post, the difference is that we need a settled side week after week. Which we've pretty much got now, the 11 at Stockport will probably be together for the majority of the rest of the season, which is the key to success. Consistency is King.
I'm no more clueless than you are, and if you think that team I've mentioned are good on FM then you're clueless about that aswell.
Rookie
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- Feb 8, 2005
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It depends on how you use the word recent. Since Poyet has come in we have done reasonably against middle or lower teams but not against higher teams, before that going back for a season or more we have not done anything. Soton was a one off, new manager and all, Villa was a good performance but players raised their game which I doubt they would be able to for a season. Believe that we have some good players but they have not shown it and for that reason very few if any can be deemed good enough for a go at promotion next season
The more you look at it the more you see that we are under performing with a squad that is not that bad.
The key thing was to get the defence to not leak so many goals. Second thing is mental attitude, we score in last few mins rather than have given up and conceed in last few. Beyond that we have to get a higher % of conversion of chances that we create. I don't think we need that many new players to achieve this
The key thing was to get the defence to not leak so many goals. Second thing is mental attitude, we score in last few mins rather than have given up and conceed in last few. Beyond that we have to get a higher % of conversion of chances that we create. I don't think we need that many new players to achieve this
We're the Stripes
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Obviously Swindon must have infinitely better players than us, as we all know the league table is perfectly listed in order of which teams have the best players. It's so simple. If we win our next two games and happen to pop up to mid-table, our players are actually alright and probably good enough for a play-off push. If we lose our next two games and drop into the relegation zone, they all need to go. That's how it works.
I'm not a fan of these sort of threads, as individual form and how they can play collectively dictates a great deal. A big chunk of our squad have been involved in play-off pushing League One sides, either with or without the Albion. Why are they suddenly not good enough? What are the reasons?
Mendoza
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Solid home results, plus a few great away results gets you promotion. We havent won at home for 4 and a half months and only won one more game on top of that.
This squad is responsible for that, so there are few you can say are going to be comfortable pushing for promotion.
You could also say that if this team was winning, the mentality would change, and players will play with more confidence and therefore look more comfortable at the other end of the table.
This squad is responsible for that, so there are few you can say are going to be comfortable pushing for promotion.
You could also say that if this team was winning, the mentality would change, and players will play with more confidence and therefore look more comfortable at the other end of the table.
HastingsSeagull
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We have lots of players who would be comfortable starting in a play-of team. The difference is those teams would have 3 or so leaders/stars and we have no-one currently good enough to fill that role. We have the number 4-11 probably 4-16 players for a playoff team easy, but can't just slot 3 playoff squad players (even starters) into what we have and do it. That would be mid table next year. We need 2 top drawer leaders (centre back and some kind of attacking / creative threat) plus a solid left winger. I'd like to see a better keeper too.
Most of the building blocks are there but that's the case for alot of sides, it's the couple of players that little bit better, who make the very evenly matched teams in our division consistantly knick an extra goal or stand firm for an away result which we need, not more solid young professionals as we have those in abundance all good enough to play and reach the playoffs with the couple of additions. In my opinion no need to replace three quarters of the team like some are saying!
Most of the building blocks are there but that's the case for alot of sides, it's the couple of players that little bit better, who make the very evenly matched teams in our division consistantly knick an extra goal or stand firm for an away result which we need, not more solid young professionals as we have those in abundance all good enough to play and reach the playoffs with the couple of additions. In my opinion no need to replace three quarters of the team like some are saying!
Midfield General
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It,s our Home form that,s let us down. Five winable games that we surprisingly lost plus the match against Orient would have easily put us in the Play-off positions. This team of players must start to win at Home and the quicker the better! We have a more than good enough squad of players...
Agreed. Sort the home form and suddenly we look like one of the best teams in the division. We know the players are good enough, as they consistently prove that away from home.
onthebeach
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i have already explained that im a close friend of the family , not that i need to but if you wanna think its his mum then your choice.
mcshane in the 79th
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I will say none would regularly start for Leeds or Norwich for example.
There's a few that could be on their bench for example, but until they sort out some sort of consistantly high performances then they would be over looked by a promotion chasing team. We're not near the bottom of the league for no reason.
There's a few that could be on their bench for example, but until they sort out some sort of consistantly high performances then they would be over looked by a promotion chasing team. We're not near the bottom of the league for no reason.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Spot on wth his though i would swap Cox and Navaro round...
If you notice on this thread most people are tipping most of our current team to be good enough - not squad, team! And I dont think we're a million miles away from it. I'd put FDM into maybe pile- he was part of our 2 previous promotion teams / squads wasn't he and aint changed much...
Seagulls over Essex
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Murray (class act)
Forster (class act)
Cox (a battler - had he come on 10 mins earlier at Villa we would have secured a draw)
Elphick (solid and reliable)
FDM (excellent goal stopper)
Forster (class act)
Cox (a battler - had he come on 10 mins earlier at Villa we would have secured a draw)
Elphick (solid and reliable)
FDM (excellent goal stopper)