[Help] Hey mechanics help out a thicko

[Stat Brother]

It would seem my garage didn't replace the sump plug after the service and MOT, naturally they're closed - not to worry thinks I, how hard can it be - 5 minute job max.

I just got a replacement, still didn't think anything of it, and am now back home accutely aware of the fact there's only 2 ways to do this and I will pick the wrong one.

So is it copper next to the plug with rubber insert ring next to the sump.
Or
Does the ring with rubber insert go onto the plug first, with the copper next to the sump.

The YouTube isn't helping.

 

[GOM]

It would seem my garage didn't replace the sump plug after the service and MOT, naturally they're closed - not to worry thinks I, how hard can it be - 5 minute job max.

I just got a replacement, still didn't think anything of it, and am now back home accutely aware of the fact there's only 2 ways to do this and I will pick the wrong one.

So is it copper next to the plug with rubber insert ring next to the sump.
Or
Does the ring with rubber insert go onto the plug first, with the copper next to the sump.

The YouTube isn't helping.

What happened to all the oil when they re-filled it ?

 

[Stat Brother]

What happened to all the oil when they re-filled it ?

It appears to be slowly leaking out.
Obviously I have no idea what's going on, only the fact there's oil on the floor and it's coming from a specific area on the underside of the engine which i assume to be sump-y.

 

[beorhthelm]

presumably they've put the old sump plug back in.

unless you want to catch and refill all the oil i'd leave alone, at least until after your argument with the garage for not changing the plug properly. its one of those "advice" things to change, not critical. its the washer thats important, worse case the plug might weep a bit.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Every vehicle is different, but my first take is ‘why the o-ring’. Normally just slip the copper gasket over the sump plug and tighten it up, or torque it up if it really needs it, or you are pedantic.

 

[Stat Brother]

presumably they've put the old sump plug back in.

unless you want to catch and refill all the oil i'd leave alone, at least until after your argument with the garage for not changing the plug properly. its one of those "advice" things to change, not critical. its the washer thats important, worse case the plug might weep a bit.

Ok thanks I'll leave well alone, as said there's oil on the floor and under the car but there's still oil in the engine so it's not pissing out.

 

[Stat Brother]

Every vehicle is different, but my first take is ‘why the o-ring’. Normally just slip the copper gasket over the sump plug and tighten it up, or torque it up if it really needs it, or you are pedantic.

clueless as opposed to pedantic.

 

[A mex eyecan]

Ok thanks I'll leave well alone, as said there's oil on the floor and under the car but there's still oil in the engine so it's not pissing out.

i’d be really pissed off if their shit work had caused my ‘serviced’ car to be leaking oil all over the floor.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Ok thanks I'll leave well alone, as said there's oil on the floor and under the car but there's still oil in the engine so it's not pissing out.

Firstly I'd check to see if it will tighten up a bit more. Then I'd wait for the garage, unless you want to change the oil again.

Unusual for a rubber o-ring usually it's just the copper o-ring incorporated (the second photo) known as a crush washer. These are considered single use.

 

[Stat Brother]

Well I've finally done what I was far too lazy to do in the first place.

I jacked up the car, crawled under and cleaned the mess round the leak.
So it's deffo leaking around the sump plug - there is one!!! (As said absolutely fudging clueless).
But it's all a moot point anyway as I don't have a 'square' tool bit and much too my suprise my home mechanic neighbour doesn't either.

So I'll just top up, for the time being.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Well I've finally done what I was far too lazy to do in the first place.

I jacked up the car, crawled under and cleaned the mess round the leak.
So it's deffo leaking around the sump plug - there is one!!! (As said absolutely fudging clueless).
But it's all a moot point anyway as I don't have a 'square' tool bit and much too my suprise my home mechanic neighbour doesn't either.

So I'll just top up, for the time being.

As already said above, leave it for the garage, as its there fvck up.

 

[Flounce]

You had better hope the garage didn’t use a power tool to tighten the sump plug too much and have cross threaded and/or fecked the sump thread, which if aluminium is a MASSIVE problem

Fingers crossed and leave it well alone, let the cowboys fix it.

 

[AlbionBro]

You had better hope the garage didn’t use a power tool to tighten the sump plug too much and have cross threaded and/or fecked the sump thread, which if aluminium is a MASSIVE problem

Fingers crossed and leave it well alone, let the cowboys fix it.

If a mechanic went anywhere near my bung hole with a power tool, I wouldn't be happy.

 

[zefarelly]

Traaditionally sump plugs where copper, thats the best material IMO . . . .occaisionally fibre washers ( old bikes for example) Some modern toss uses dowty washers, with is a metal washer with a plastic/rubber inner ring, never seen or used a rubber O ring . . .

definitely torque it . . . . Easy to damage. The square drive will be 10 or 12mm, Halfords do a universal tool for sumps, like those old bone bike spanners . . . . If you're lucky it may be 10mm and a socket wrench with 3/8" drive will fit.

either way its a real schoolboy error. If you can wait get them to fix it properly and get it checked by someone competent . . .a damaged sump thread will be a time consuming repair/replacement

 

[AlbionBro]

Traaditionally sump plugs where copper, thats the best material IMO . . . .occaisionally fibre washers ( old bikes for example) Some modern toss uses dowty washers, with is a metal washer with a plastic/rubber inner ring, never seen or used a rubber O ring . . .

definitely torque it . . . . Easy to damage. The square drive will be 10 or 12mm, Halfords do a universal tool for sumps, like those old bone bike spanners . . . . If you're lucky it may be 10mm and a socket wrench with 3/8" drive will fit.

either way its a real schoolboy error. If you can wait get them to fix it properly and get it checked by someone competent . . .a damaged sump thread will be a time consuming repair/replacement

I think rubber rings and lube do work..for some. (Zetec) Some lad has probably been swinging on a long T bar and stripped the threads as bald as Matt Lucas.