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Have you saved enough money for your retirement?



fatboy

Active member
Jul 5, 2003
13,096
Falmer
An article today shows more than 12 million working people are not saving enough for their retirement.

Are you lucky enough to have a final salary pension scheme?

If not, do you save enough or have invested enough for your retirement?

Or will you have to work until you are 80?

Or be poor?
 




JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,294
Hassocks
No pension as yet, but bollox to it I pay my tax and NI the state can bloody well look after me!
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,534
Lancing
90% of the workers in this land will work until they drop dead. The lucky people are NHS and Teachers.
 


REDLAND

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
I have a private pension, and now a company pension and my own house,

I should be OK :jester:
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,870
The arse end of Hangleton
80's Seagull said:
No pension as yet, but bollox to it I pay my tax and NI the state can bloody well look after me!

You should become an Independant Finanicial Advisor with investment strategies like that ! :lolol:
 


Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
Yes thank you :)

I also have absolutely no sympathy for people who are poor in old age. It is NOT the state's responsibility to see you through your retirement.
 


80's Seagull said:
No pension as yet, but bollox to it I pay my tax and NI the state can bloody well look after me!

You're not the first person I've hear say that but I fear you may be sadly mistaken. You can't just assume the state will support you - if the money isn't there, it isn't there. There will be millions more people drawing pensions when we retire and the money has to come from somewhere.

I'm one of the lucky few with a Final Salary scheme. I think I'm right in saying that they can't stop me having that, only stop new employees getting it (Which I think they have already done - Tony Le Mesmer will know better than me, working in our Finance Dept!). I've transferred previous pensions into this to 'buy' more service so all my eggs are in one basket. Haven't got a clue what I will do if I leave. :eek:
 








Lammy said:
Yes thank you :)

I also have absolutely no sympathy for people who are poor in old age. It is NOT the state's responsibility to see you through your retirement.
Have you read any of the broadsheets today? They may change your mind! Scary how much you need to save up - £500000 for the equivalent of £20000 a year - I think it said.
 




JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,294
Hassocks
The Great Cornholio said:
You're not the first person I've hear say that but I fear you may be sadly mistaken. You can't just assume the state will support you - if the money isn't there, it isn't there. There will be millions more people drawing pensions when we retire and the money has to come from somewhere.

I'm actually well aware that the money may not be there, I'm just a bit miffed as to why not.
I currently pay my slice to Gordon Bloody Brown who pay state pension to the current crop of wrinklies. Surely when I reach my later years there will still be plenty of people working and paying taxes so where is they're money going to go?
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,870
The arse end of Hangleton
The Great Cornholio said:
Scary how much you need to save up - £500000 for the equivalent of £20000 a year - I think it said.

BLOODY HELL !!!

Even with my frozen Final Salary pensions with previous employers, my stakeholder pension and a little property investment I'll struggle to get a fraction of that figure.

I guess I could always sell my house to one of those schemes that give 75% of the value and still let you live in it until you die.
 




80's Seagull said:
I'm actually well aware that the money may not be there, I'm just a bit miffed as to why not.
I currently pay my slice to Gordon Bloody Brown who pay state pension to the current crop of wrinklies. Surely when I reach my later years there will still be plenty of people working and paying taxes so where is they're money going to go?

Basic maths. There will be a 6 percent swing in the difference between the people paying pension and the people drawing pension. You either put up taxes by 5 or 10 % or you don't pay out as much, if anything. Successive governments have swept this under the carpet whilst shares were doing well.
 


Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
Well at my previous job I paid 5% of my salary to a pension the company paid 10%.

I'm currently paying 5% of my salary and my employers are paying 4%.

I intend to up this still further in the future. Trust me this is a shit load more than a lot of people my age.

I also own my own house and my well invest in property in the future.

If that isn't enough then I'm going to quit and go and live in India.

Don't forget I will still get a state pension too!
 


Westdene Seagull said:
BLOODY HELL !!!

Even with my frozen Final Salary pensions with previous employers, my stakeholder pension and a little property investment I'll struggle to get a fraction of that figure.

I guess I could always sell my house to one of those schemes that give 75% of the value and still let you live in it until you die.

According to the Independent this morning, the maximum you can get out of those kind of deals is 45% - too many burnt fingers from people living too long.

That's the other thing I forgot to mention in my last post - on average, we will all be living 3-5 years longer in 30 years time. Naughty us!
 


caz99

New member
Jun 2, 2004
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Sompting
The Great Cornholio said:
Have you read any of the broadsheets today? They may change your mind! Scary how much you need to save up - £500000 for the equivalent of £20000 a year - I think it said.

i saw that scary. the scary thing for me being a young person is deciding when i should be putting money away how much and where.

however i do feel that there should be a set pension for everyone and not necessarily means tested as they are now. it is some of the states responsibility to look after older people and provide them with a basic state pension to enable them to live
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,870
The arse end of Hangleton
The Great Cornholio said:
According to the Independent this morning, the maximum you can get out of those kind of deals is 45% - too many burnt fingers from people living too long.

That's the other thing I forgot to mention in my last post - on average, we will all be living 3-5 years longer in 30 years time. Naughty us!

Lets all start smoking then .... that'll solve the problem. :lolol:
 


Marc

New member
Jul 6, 2003
25,267
I wont be out of debt for years so chances of me saving any money for retirement are like Britney Spears waking me up with a.....you know what.....in the morning!
 


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