[News] Greta Thunberg and the boat

[Randy McNob]

Just wanted to make the point

Boat was safely afloat, all souls on board wanted to enter Gaza to deliver aid and were denied. So entering Gaza would be illegal and they were deported

Boats across the channel are unsafe, the people are refugees with the intention of entering the UK to claim asylum. It is not illegal. That's why they are not arrested or deported. So calling them illegal immigrants is factually incorrect.

 

[Sussax]

I'm sure this will end well

 

[Flounce]

Just wanted to make the point

Boat was safely afloat, all souls on board wanted to enter Gaza to deliver aid and were denied. So entering Gaza would be illegal and they were deported

Boats across the channel are unsafe, the people are refugees with the intention of entering the UK to claim asylum. It is not illegal. That's why they are not arrested or deported. So calling them illegal immigrants is factually incorrect.

Point of interest, what percentage seek asylum on arrival and what percentage disappear into the country as soon as they arrive?

 

[Randy McNob]

Point of interest, what percentage seek asylum on arrival and what percentage disappear into the country as soon as they arrive?

Without a factual record / tangible evidence........none

 

[Official Old Man]

Anyone notice she was flown home?

 

[Moin]

Just wanted to make the point

Boat was safely afloat, all souls on board wanted to enter Gaza to deliver aid and were denied. So entering Gaza would be illegal and they were deported

Boats across the channel are unsafe, the people are refugees with the intention of entering the UK to claim asylum. It is not illegal. That's why they are not arrested or deported. So calling them illegal immigrants is factually incorrect.

Some are genuine refugees, some are economic migrants.

I may be wrong but I thought it was illegal to enter the UK this way. The mechanism, I understood, is that if you immediately state you are seeking asylum then you are entitled to due process under the law, and may legally remain while your claim is considered. If your claim is eventually rejected, your status becomes illegal once again, and you are deported. Unless you're looking after someone's cat, or whatever.

 

[The Lemming Stomper]

Anyone notice she was flown home?

By a Chinese ET ?

 

[beorhthelm]

Without a factual record / tangible evidence........none

yet you're inferring that all boats crossing the channel are legal as a fact.

what if Greta had claimed asylum in Israel, could they have been allowed to deport her?

entering a country without documentation or not through official process is illegal. claiming asylum in a country is not illegal. silly side issue, when the really important matter is how you manage them (and legal migrants) once in the country.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Anyone notice she was flown home?

That's odd, I was expecting them just to put her back in the boat......

 

[worthingweird]

Just wanted to make the point

Boat was safely afloat, all souls on board wanted to enter Gaza to deliver aid and were denied. So entering Gaza would be illegal and they were deported

Boats across the channel are unsafe, the people are refugees with the intention of entering the UK to claim asylum. It is not illegal. That's why they are not arrested or deported. So calling them illegal immigrants is factually incorrect.

They are entering the country illegally, therefore a crime, they are illegal imigrants who ditch all their identities into the channel...

 

[Randy McNob]

They are entering the country illegally, therefore a crime, they are illegal imigrants who ditch all their identities into the channel...

Incorrect. If they were they'd be arrested and immediately deported

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Likely Greta's presence (and some of the low level politicians) saved the lives of everyone else on the boat

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Anyone notice she was flown home?

Don't think she had a lot of choice in the matter

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Some are genuine refugees, some are economic migrants.

I may be wrong but I thought it was illegal to enter the UK this way. The mechanism, I understood, is that if you immediately state you are seeking asylum then you are entitled to due process under the law, and may legally remain while your claim is considered. If your claim is eventually rejected, your status becomes illegal once again, and you are deported. Unless you're looking after someone's cat, or whatever.

It isn’t illegal, because the Conservatives closed down all the safe routes for asylum seekers, even the Ukrainians after a few months. Only Hong Kong refugees can claim asylum before they arrive.
Anyone else has to claim asylum once they set foot on British soil.

Before Brexit, we could return them to France under the Dublin agreement. The Home Office didn’t process the claims for long time, allowing the numbers to rise and rise. Hotel owners (quite possibly donors to the party, were doing very nicely out of tax payers money.

Since last July, the civil servants (hundreds of them hired to run the now defunct Rwandan scheme) have been allocated to deal with the claims, and 30,000 have been deported as failed. Figures on the Home Office gov website.

I have posted this several times a month for the last 9 years but will happily post it again, including the United Nations convention on refugees 1951, as signed up for Britain by Sir Winston Churchill.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Likely Greta's presence (and some of the low level politicians) saved the lives of everyone else on the boat

Yes. I was about to make the same point. Without her that boat and all aboard would be at the bottom of the Med by now, probably in International waters (where it was intercepted)

 

[Thunder Bolt]

They are entering the country illegally, therefore a crime, they are illegal imigrants who ditch all their identities into the channel...

 

[Randy McNob]

Exactly, desperate people seeking sanctuary and exercising their rights to asylum branded criminals.

Shamefull and makes me not proud to British, and all those that buy the media lies shame on you

 

[Zebedee]

Don't think she had a lot of choice in the matter

And quite rightly.

 

[Chicken Run]

So calling them illegal immigrants is factually incorrect.

Quite correct, I call them Unauthorised Aliens

 

[nevergoagain]

Without a factual record / tangible evidence........none

Well we know that 17k at least are "missing" even the Guardian says that.

Home Office ‘loses’ 17,000 people whose asylum claims were withdrawn

Tory MP queries claims marked withdrawn as government tries to clear backlog by end of year

www.theguardian.com