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From the BBC website:-


MacLaurin calls for cuts

The former head of the England and Wales Cricket Board believes the number of county teams must be cut by a third.

Lord MacLaurin says "drastic changes" are needed to ease financial problems caused by falling TV revenues.

He warned that unless action was taken cricket could become like croquet - "a summer sport that was".

MacLaurin retired as ECB chairman last year to focus on business interests.

He was replaced by his deputy David Morgan after five years in charge, a period which saw him establish a reputation as a modernising force within the game.

MacLaurin oversaw the introduction of central contracts for England players, the establishment of an ECB Academy to develop young talent, and the introduction of two divisions in the County Championship and one-day National League.

Despite that, he has voiced concerns about the future of county cricket on previous occasions.

Two years ago, MacLaurin called for the number of players in county cricket to be reduced.

"We have around 450 professional cricketers in this country and that is far too many, the game can only sustain around 200-250," he claimed.

His latest statement comes at a time when the state of county cricket is again the subject of intense debate.

England captain Michael Vaughan questioned whether the current county format makes players metally tough enough for Test cricket following his side's defeat by South Africa at Headingley.

And MacLaurin believes that a consistently successful England side is crucial to the game's well-being.

"If cricket is to survive in this present environment, drastic changes have to be made. But those drastic changes have to be thought through very carefully.

"At the end of the day, we have got to have an England side which is one of the best in the world, if not the best in the world," he said.

David Graveney, the chairman of England's selectors, told the BBC that he felt MacLaurin was being overly pessimistic.

But he accepts the need for urgent talks to discuss the current situation.

"All I want is all the stakeholders to get round a table at the same time, that's the counties, that's the ECB, Team England, PCA [players' union], and let's see what the best course of action is for the game.

"I personally think that the 18 counties are sustainable. But it's an ongoing thing, you can't spend money that you haven't got," said Graveney.




Reducing the number of counties by a third can be achieved by merging some county cricket clubs... apparently.

I think not.
 










Brovion

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Merging the counties is a terrible idea (although the Welsh are thinking of doing it with their Rugby clubs) - however he is correct about the need for change.

I would like to see the system change to be more like Australia, there the State teams are basically representative sides not 'clubs' with permanent staffs. Couldn't we do something similar? Currently we have the county 'circuit' which is as much about social interaction as it is cricket. Imagine if Sussex had only one or two professionals and the rest played with clubs such as Worthing, Horsham etc. Then for Sussex county games (which would be reduced, perhaps by having three divisions) the best players would be called on to represent their county. Hopefully it would increase the standard all round.

They could even be part-time pros. Australian cricket was part-time for years and they still used to beat us.
 






Brixtaan

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kinkygerbil: they wouldn't touch Kent either.

Sussex though,up until this season,we could do without.:lolol:
 


Seagull over NZ

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Need to do something like that - people need to see through the short term problem of losing your county identity. At the end of the day, there aren't enough people pasionate about the county for it to be sustained.

Its really all about improving the standard of cricket such that the test side improves. We have too many county trundlers who play county cricket for years on end and do nothing to improve the standard. Each county has at best 1 or 2 test players with the odd overseas player - look at the Australian state side system - probably 3 or 4 current internationals, 2 or 3 up and coming future internationals and maybe 1 or 2 retired internationals. All this means that the step up from state to international isn't as big and they fit into test cricket stratight away.

Hence why England players often take an age to get up to speed - doesn't mean they are less talented, just that the step up is too big. Just look at people like Butcher and Fl;intoff whop are now finding their feet after playing quite a few tests - an Aussie would be prepared for it straight away.

My merger would be as follows:

Essex/Kent
Surrey/Middlesex
Sussex/Hampshire
Gloucs/Somerset
Glamorgan/Worcs
Yorkshire/Durham
Lancashire/Derbyshire
Warwicks/Leics
Northants/Notts
 






Seagull over NZ

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Whats wrong with my geography? Th eonly ones dodgy is possibly Lancashire/Derby (couldn't have Lancs and Yorkshire together!) and poossibly Glam/Worcs. But then no-one would want to be with the Welsh would they......
 






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Seagull over NZ said:
Whats wrong with my geography? Th eonly ones dodgy is possibly Lancashire/Derby (couldn't have Lancs and Yorkshire together!) and poossibly Glam/Worcs. But then no-one would want to be with the Welsh would they......

not slating your geography - as in bowling bowling mushy
 


Brixtaan

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Seagull over NZ- stop,your making me very very angry.:censored:





That has to be one of the most ludicrous posts ever seen on NSC.

Kent and Essex! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 


Seagull over NZ

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Sorry Pevenseagull - bit sensitive and slow this morning. Now got it.

Brixtaan - whats wrong with Kent and Essex - both non-descript counties who deserve each other.

Now Sussex and Hampshire - Warnie from one end and Mushy from the other. Now thats quite appealing...
 




Brovion

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I think it's living with all those sheep Mr Pony, it's addled his brain.
 


Brovion

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.... mind you the 'non-descript counties' bit is accurate! :D
 




Brighton Breezy

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This is a contraversial idea but why not scrap the 5 day games at club level apart from say a long running cup, its these games that are crippling the sport because no one apart from OAPs (who get in cheap) actually go. If not scrap it then heavily reduce it to perhaps tree leagues with less games. Or make it regional so more local classhes etc..bigger crowds. then a play off between northern champs and southern champs say..or west, north west, south and midlands..
 
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