Good fan, bad fan, PC Brigades and Sanitisation of Football

[34064 Fighter Command]

Who needs a bar, you can take your own! The bars are only there for when you've finished your unlimited (to an extent) supply of Red Stripe.

Beer at the ground is approx 2.60 a pint for lager and the berr of just is Oranjeboom or Spitfire for the ale drinkers.

Hunky players? Carl Hopkinson is pretty tasty.

Carl Hopkinson player profile : favourite car - Rover Metro.

WTF ?

Lynn: Now, Alan, you’re going to have to trade down your Rover 800 for a smaller car.
Alan: [Suspicious] Go on.
Lynn: I picked up these brochures for the new Metro. It’s a lovely car. And if you do –
Alan: [Interrupting] Lynn, I’m not driving a mini-Metro.
Lynn: But you do have to make substantial savings.
Alan: Lynn, I am not driving a mini-Metro.
Lynn: But if you do, you can keep Pear Tree Productions going with a skeleton staff of two,
and –
Alan: There’s no point finishing the sentence, Lynn, because I am not driving a mini-Metro.
Lynn: But if you d –
Alan: Lynn! I’ll just speak over you.
Lynn: But –
Alan: No! Go on, try and finish the sentence and see what I do. Go on.
Lynn: [They both talk together] With a skeleton staff of two –
Alan: I’m not driving a mini-Metro, I’m not driving a mini-Metro, I’m not driving a mini-Metro.
Lynn: No, no it’s different. It’s called a Rover Metro now.
Alan: They’ve rebadged it, you fool!

 

[CHAPPERS]

It's probably what he's been given as a sponsor car or summink?

In fact, it's got to be innit?

 

[Thimble Keegan]

I think that says it all really. What is so wrong with singing a song about a fat scottish bastard at a fat scottish bastard. ITs only the same as fat northern bastard at Barry Fry.

I thought we sang "Fat Cockney Bastard" at Barry Fry because he is both fat and a Cockney not a northerner

Albion & England forever.

Thimble Keegan
Katowice BHA

 

[Soul Finger]

If the players didn't get paid so much the admission prices would come down, hence attracting back the old support and generating the old atmosphere, supposedly.

Obviously, in a way you can't blame the players if they're offered £50k a week. Why has it got to that level? Christ, some Hornchurch players are on £3k + a week. It's ridiculous.

Football can't go backwards because it will die on it's arse. Clubs need to employ supporters in possibly a consultant capacity to deal with matchdays.

If you're passionate and care you get up, sing, shout and generally make a racket. This in turn generates atmosphere that helps the players. I know all seaters have rules but common sense should really rule when dealing with a crowd.

It's a frustrating situation.

Cricket?

Will never, ever, ever, ever, arouse the passion and fervour that football does.

 

[fatbadger]

This has nothing to do with 'PC' and everything to do with money.

Think about this - Old Trafford is called, without any trace of irony, 'The Theatre of Dreams'. What do you do at the theatre? You pay for your (often extortionately-priced) ticket, you sit down, you be quite, and you clap politely at the end even if the performance is shite.

That says all you need to know about what the moneymen envisage for us football fans.

 

[Curious Orange]

It's the all-seater stadium problem really. It had nothing to do with safety and everything to do with hooliganism.

 

[Dancin Ninja BHA]

Think about this - Old Trafford is called, without any trace of irony, 'The Theatre of Dreams'. What do you do at the theatre? You pay for your (often extortionately-priced) ticket, you sit down, you be quite, and you clap politely at the end even if the performance is shite.

Not quite true...

Went there 2 weeks back and where I sat in the Stretford End, the atmosphere was excellent

 

[fatbadger]

Not quite true...

Went there 2 weeks back and where I sat in the Stretford End, the atmosphere was excellent

I didn't say it was like that .. I am saying it's what the marketing and money men want it to be like. A problem-free arena in which the fan turns up, pays his/her money and consumes the product with gratitude.

 

[Brovion]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the German bomber song, they're big enough to take it. As you rightly say U.B it's part of our history, the same way as the Easter Rising and Bannockburn are part of Ireland and Scotland's history. In the same vein I think our National Anthem should be the Dambusters March and like the Americans have to put their hands on their hearts whilst it's being played we should put those 'hand goggles' on.

PS - As a nation we should have more anti-French songs, we've been at war with them longer.

(Just editing to say AND THEY STARTED IT! Also we'd keep the same 'words' for the Dambusters "La la la la lalala la la!")

 

[CHAPPERS]

I didn't say it was like that .. I am saying it's what the marketing and money men want it to be like. A problem-free arena in which the fan turns up, pays his/her money and consumes the product with gratitude.

Precisely.

 

[alan partridge]

what the hell has PC got to do with anything? All about money and fear of being sued i.e. losing money

That german bomber song is just shit anyway. English football fans come up with the most inventive , funny chants in the world....as long as they are following their club. Inger-land songs are rrrrrrrubbish. Stand up if you won the war?? Ahhhhh our grandfathers lost their lives so we could drunkenly sing that one didn't they?

 

[Brovion]

what the hell has PC got to do with anything? All about money and fear of being sued i.e. losing money

That german bomber song is just shit anyway. English football fans come up with the most inventive , funny chants in the world....as long as they are following their club. Inger-land songs are rrrrrrrubbish. Stand up if you won the war?? Ahhhhh our grandfathers lost their lives so we could drunkenly sing that one didn't they?

It is true that we do go on about the war a bit as if we won it ourselves (just to point out when it was us against the Germans without the Americans backing us up or the USSR attacking on another front we got absolutely thrashed and ran away), however so what? Every country has it's own myths and my Dad (who fought for over 3 years in WW2) absolutely wet himself when he first heard the 'Two world wars and one world cup' song, even though he knew that as an historical statement it was not 100% accurate. What used to really upset him was seeing English people giving Nazi salutes.

Again you are right though, it IS pretty poor and as a nation we're very light on decent songs.

 

[Zeitgeist]

The Murdoch revolution in 1992 was the begining of the end of the game of football as we knew it. People talk of the "Withdean factor" as a reason for not attending home games. However, how many "genuine away days" are there in Football? By that I mean where you can turn up and pay on the day, not need a second mortgage to get in, not have jobsworth stewards on a power trip, and not get fleeced for a polystyrene cup of tepid watered down piss? I agonised long and hard before re-newing my season ticket this year, eventually relenting. Last season I had far better days at some of Worthings games than I did at Withdean despite promotion. Maybe that makes me a so called bad fan??..Non league from the conference downwards is where footballs true soul is in the present day. Well, at the moment anyway?!

 

[alan partridge]

my Dad (who fought for over 3 years in WW2) absolutely wet himself when he first heard the 'Two world wars and one world cup' song,

THAT one has a bit of humour to it though doesn't it? The stand up one and the bomber ones are just dull. And yes as you point out the intense stupidity of nazi salutes beggars belief. I imagine the morons who make them would shake your dad by the hand as well knowing he was a veteran. I am sure he wouldn't touch them with a barge pole though.