Goal Line Technology - Good or Bad

[Uncle Buck]

Taken from todays Guardian;

League to lobby for lasers on goal-line

Alan Biggs and Stuart James
Friday July 23, 2004
The Guardian

The Football League is to press for the introduction of goal-line technology after a number of club chairmen expressed their support for the use of electronic aids in the goal frame. It has emerged that the subject was debated at the League AGM last month.
"There was discussion about goal-line technology and there is certainly a body of support for it at club level," said John Nagle, a Football League spokesman, yesterday.

Every season goals are either falsely awarded or wrongly disallowed in instances when it is touch and go whether the ball has crossed the line. However, many club chairmen believe the technology is available to prevent such controversies. This is understood to involve the use of lasers in the goal frame to detect the placement of the ball.

The Football League has also expressed concern at the possibility of Fifa introducing transfer windows for the start of the 2005-06 season. The game's world ruling body recently extended the two-year dispensation granted to the Football League, which allows clubs outside the Premiership to buy and sell players all year round, for one more season.

However, Sir Brian Mawhinney, the chairman of the Football League, said yesterday that Fifa planned to ratify a new agreement after next season.

"I am concerned about the transfer-window aspect of their new regulations and how it might potentially exacerbate the difficulties of Football League clubs," Mawhinney said. "Clubs need the flexibility to transfer players for financial as well as for other reasons."

 

[Wozza]

Bad idea.

One of the great things about football is that it can be played, at any level, using the same, basic apparatus. Or jumpers.

 

[ditchy]

go for it .. love to see it

 

[Wozza]

Behave! Incorrect decisions are a major part of the fun of football (as long as they go your way).

 

[ditchy]

Bad idea.

One of the great things about football is that it can be played, at any level, using the same, basic apparatus. Or jumpers.

so can a number of sports which u dont need the technology for .. would improve the game imho

 

[Easy 10]

Goal-line technology would be excellent in my opinion. I am absolutely AGAINST video replays being used to overrule refereeing decisions in general, but I'd have absolutely no problem with a piece of technology that says whether the whole of the ball has crossed the goal-line or not. Perhaps it could set off a buzzer, like in ice hockey ?

The only problem I can see is the cost. Premiership clubs could obviously have it installed no problem, but what about the other three divisions ? And below that ?

 

[Wozza]

so can a number of sports which u dont need the technology for

WHAT?

 

[Wardy]

Bad idea we will never be able to debate again if the ball crossed the line or not. Take the 66 cup final nearly 40 years later we still debate it.

 

[tainan]

Will it still work if there is a player standing on the goal line, as is often the case during a goal-mouth scramble ?

 

[Marshy]

gotta be a good idea in my book.
If the ball crosses the line its a goal.
I dont buy into the concept that it will slow the game down either, literally 10 seconds i would have thought.

 

[Vlad the Impala]

Perhaps it could set off a buzzer, like in ice hockey ?

The 'technology' that sets off a buzzer in ice hockey is an old geezer sitting in a chair peering through the glass. And it's a light, not a buzzer. And they sometimes get it wrong.

 

[Easy 10]

The 'technology' that sets off a buzzer in ice hockey is an old geezer sitting in a chair peering through the glass. And it's a light, not a buzzer. And they sometimes get it wrong.

Shows how much I know about ice hockey then

I used to play an ice hockey computer game (Wayne Gretsky ?) and I distinctly remember a buzzer going off when a goal was scored.

Maybe we could get some fireworks rigged up to the stanchions behind the goal, and have them launched when the ball crosses the line. That'd be well cool.

 

[Brovion]

I suppose I'm in favor as long as it's a simple Yes or No, a bit like the buzzer they use in tennis perhaps? As Easy says the LAST thing we need is video replays, even with video you still get arguments.

What if it breaks down though? Knight shoots, you see the net ripple and see the ball snugly trapped in the back of it. Then the Ref (from the Challiss/Prosser school) says 'No Goal' because the buzzer didn't go off. Obviously the ball must have sneaked round the back on its own.

 

[ditchy]

Will it still work if there is a player standing on the goal line, as is often the case during a goal-mouth scramble ?

stick a chip in the ball

 

[ditchy]

WHAT?

running swimming most ball games

 

[m20gull]

Bad idea.

Supporting football is about far more than an appreciation of the quality of the performance - it's about emotion. Otherwise we would all watch Premiership football only. I watch Brighton, I would never miss a Brighton game to watch England on the telly. So I go to football because I like my emotions triggered, and that includes the despair when decisions go against, and elation and amusement when they go your way.

I remember when Crumplin scored (obviously) with his hand (I think it was at Cambridge). The delight of scoring was compounded by the knowledge that the opposing fans saw it and can do nothing about it.

It's all part of the game. Football is for humans. Humans make mistakes. Let's cherish those aberrations in this game and not try to automate it.

 

[Easy 10]

stick a chip in the ball

Butters would eat it.

 

[Storer68]

But the ball is a sphere and ALL of it must cross the line for a goal to be awarded.

SO
part of the ball can be behind the line, part of the ball can be on the line, and part of the ball can be over the line, all at the same time.

i don't see a sensor being able to differentiate between a part of the ball that is over the line and a part of the ball that is behind the line.

and it will have to ignore any player or official that is standing on the goal-line and getting in the way of part of the beam............

Nice idea..........but not overly practical methinks

 

[Wozza]

running swimming most ball games

I didn't say football was unique because it can be played without technology. I said one of the great things is that it can be played at any level using exactly the same equipment.

 

[US Seagull]

Shows how much I know about ice hockey then

I used to play an ice hockey computer game (Wayne Gretsky ?) and I distinctly remember a buzzer going off when a goal was scored.

Maybe we could get some fireworks rigged up to the stanchions behind the goal, and have them launched when the ball crosses the line. That'd be well cool.

Every hockey game I've been to had a buzzer and a light IIRC...