Giving your vote away.

[Nibble]

Only came in half way through a debate on R2 but if I have this correct there is a group of liberal folks who are giving their electoral vote to immigrants who currently don't have the right to vote in this country.

This doesn't sit comfortably with me tbh. I'm not sure why but would like to know if anyone knows the full story or any opinions?

 

[The Cardinal]

Only came in half way through a debate on R2 but if I have this correct there is a group of liberal folks who are giving their electoral vote to immigrants who currently don't have the right to vote in this country.

This doesn't sit comfortably with me tbh. I'm not sure why but would like to know if anyone knows the full story or any opinions?

How this side of electoral fraud are they going to do that?

EU citizens do btw have the right to vote as some levels in other EU countries but not (usually) at national level.

 

[beorhthelm]

yeah, that would be illegal. and i dont really see the purpose. PR to highlight the "plight" of immigrants who cannot vote methinks.

 

[Nibble]

Not illegal. They've set up this group, the immigrant contacts a person on a list of people who won't be using their vote and asks them to vote for the party they want.

It's up and running now, they had a guy from Ghana on the debate who has got someone else's vote all set up.

 

[User removed 4]

If this is true i dont know whether to laugh or cry, its the same as these f***ing idiots who complain about ' asylum seekers ' being locked up while their ' claims ' are processed, if you are a genuine asylum seeker , fleeing torture and persecution you wouldn't care if you were locked up , just that you were safe, if , however you were an economic immigrant looking to disappear.................

 

[Superphil]

What Nibble says is basically it. People are being encouraged to vote based on what people in Africa, Asia and elsewhere want. The thinking behind it is because they should have a say on how we run our country with regards to our (The UK) impact on world enviroment, world economies etc.

 

[Nibble]

Unless R2 are now making spoof programs on the lunchtime slot it is true.

 

[User removed 4]

Not illegal. They've set up this group, the immigrant contacts a person on a list of people who won't be using their vote and asks them to vote for the party they want.

It's up and running now, they had a guy from Ghana on the debate who has got someone else's vote all set up.

Did this bloke from Ghana manage to say why exactly he thought he was entitled to a vote ? I await the imminent leaping to his defence/branding me a nazi by NSCs finest hand wringers , fill yer boots alan partrige/franks wild years etc

 

[Nibble]

Yes, this is extended to people in foreign countries.

 

[Nibble]

Did this bloke from Ghana manage to say why exactly he thought he was entitled to a vote ? I await the imminent leaping to his defence/branding me a nazi by NSCs finest hand wringers , fill yer boots alan partrige/franks wild years etc

Nope, not that I heard just that he reckons we in England wast our votes and he can seemingly choose for us. The girl who was giving her vote to him sounded like a right bloody liberal tree hugger. Sort of fool that goes on a well building trip to Tanzania and then backpacks round France on her parents money talking shite when they return before she gets shagged by some rough handed bricky down an alley way after a drunken night out, and decides she no longer gives a toss about Ghana and works as PA until she gets pregnant and moves to Brighton, purchases a three wheeler buggy and decides to cart her muelling cabbage children to The Open House pub to annoy everyone.

 

[Mellotron]

Sort of fool that goes on a well building trip to Tanzania.

Yeah....bloody w*nkers helping give clean drinking water to those who might DIE without it. Stupid softy lefty liberall sandally guardiany SCUM.

 

[Nibble]

Yeah....bloody w*nkers helping give clean drinking water to those who might DIE without it. Stupid softy lefty liberall sandally guardiany SCUM.

well, yes maybe a bad example but what I mean is this is the sort of thing these wankers do.

 

[Munkfish]

Nope, not that I heard just that he reckons we in England wast our votes and he can seemingly choose for us. The girl who was giving her vote to him sounded like a right bloody liberal tree hugger. Sort of fool that goes on a well building trip to Tanzania and then backpacks round France on her parents money talking shite when they return before she gets shagged by some rough handed bricky down an alley way after a drunken night out, and decides she no longer gives a toss about Ghana and works as PA until she gets pregnant and moves to Brighton, purchases a three wheeler buggy and decides to cart her muelling cabbage children to The Open House pub to annoy everyone.

 

[beorhthelm]

so its not allowing someone to turn up to the polling station and vote as you. thats how i read "giving vote away".

i've heard similar schemes before for tactical voting, you exchange your vote with someone in another consituancy where the party you support doesnt have a hope in yours. its not illegal but boarder line as there can be no coercion involved in your voting.

this scheme here sounds like it might be considered coersive if you are being instructed to vote according to the whim of a internet site, even if you sign up for it. its certainly boarderline. consider the (very real) parallels of legal voters in ethinic areas, who do not read english and are told who to vote for by their husbands.

 

[Nibble]

The idea of someone who has no experience of living here having a say in who runs the place doesn't fill me with confidence. For example some Anglophile living in Ghana may well have the impression England is this lovely green fielded Utopia where we all ride around on bicycles with baskets on the front, read poetry in a punt as they glide blissfuly down a river in Oxford, have the queen over for cucumber sandwiches on Sundays and buy plates with twee babies and kittens on them out of the back of The News Of The World.

This is the kind of England the BNP spin and claim they want a return to.

The person, if she is representative of the whole, who was on radio talking about it is doing it for effect. Inbetween mouthfuls of warasaka Lentil tea, slurped from an earthenware drinking mug made by the limbless albinos of the Himalyas (£7.49 from Habitat) she spouts her ill thought out arguments makes me weep for the future.

 

[teaboy]

What makes you any more qualified to decide what makes a good government? People will have different political views, no matter where they're from, or their status in this country.

As less than 50% of those entitled to vote (those on the electoral role - there are plenty of people who could be but aren't) don't actually bother then I think your argument is with the wrong people. Get those whose vote will be unused to turn out, then things might be different.

 

[Juan Albion]

slurped from an earthenware drinking mug made by the limbless albinos of the Himalyas

That's very Himalaya-Albinoist! Ban him!

 

[BLOCK F]

The idea of someone who has no experience of living here having a say in who runs the place doesn't fill me with confidence. For example some Anglophile living in Ghana may well have the impression England is this lovely green fielded Utopia where we all ride around on bicycles with baskets on the front, read poetry in a punt as they glide blissfuly down a river in Oxford, have the queen over for cucumber sandwiches on Sundays and buy plates with twee babies and kittens on them out of the back of The News Of The World.

This is the kind of England the BNP spin and claim they want a return to.

The person, if she is representative of the whole, who was on radio talking about it is doing it for effect. Inbetween mouthfuls of warasaka Lentil tea, slurped from an earthenware drinking mug made by the limbless albinos of the Himalyas (£7.49 from Habitat) she spouts her ill thought out arguments makes me weep for the future.

 

[Nibble]

What makes you any more qualified to decide what makes a good government? People will have different political views, no matter where they're from, or their status in this country.

As less than 50% of those entitled to vote (those on the electoral role - there are plenty of people who could be but aren't) don't actually bother then I think your argument is with the wrong people. Get those whose vote will be unused to turn out, then things might be different.

The peope who don't vote and the voters from other countries are entirely seperate arguments. i am choosing to express my opinion on a thread that deals with the latter therefore am talking about the latter.

What makes me qualified ? Well, qualified is a strange choice of words but I would say I probably have more of an idea seeing as I live in the country. secondly I put into this countries coffers so have a hell of a lot more right to vote on who runs it and the fact that I am going to ahve to live with and pay taxes to whoever gets voted in. I will concede that our international policies do affect the rest of the world but frankly, what days my recycling box gets emptied and how long I have to wait to get physio on my shoulder is none of Ghana's business. So to use your parlance, that makes me more qualified than a man who has never visited England, who lives in Ghana and will not have to live with the consequences.

 

[clapham_gull]

Only came in half way through a debate on R2 but if I have this correct there is a group of liberal folks who are giving their electoral vote to immigrants who currently don't have the right to vote in this country.

This doesn't sit comfortably with me tbh. I'm not sure why but would like to know if anyone knows the full story or any opinions?

It's a bit of an odd campaign, but you've got the gist of it a bit wrong.

It doesn't appear to have anything to do with immigrants.

.. and yes, I think it's rather silly.