Leekbrookgull
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Freedom comes at a price and for me if that means 'listerning in' on certain people than i can't see what else the Govt can be expected to do ?
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GCHQ,Prism and all that.
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ferris_ferrit
Active member
- Feb 1, 2011
- 101
Wasn't the issue that they were listening to EVERYONE'S conversations and internet activity? No warm blooded male can say that they would completely trust a 3rd party to scrutinise their internet activity too closely... Terrible things are currently being done in the name of our "security" and our "safety" and it scares the pants off me.
mistahclarke
Well-known member
- Jul 28, 2009
- 2,997
If anyone from prism is reading this, I am currently with your wife while you are work 
- disclaimer - this is a joke. I am not with your wife (she's far too ugly)
- disclaimer - this is a joke. I am not with your wife (she's far too ugly)
SeagullSongs
And it's all gone quiet..
Or a powerful computer and reasonable programming skills.
NorthStandN1A
Member
they have invented this in order to sort out our current situation.
It's not about being naughty. There are plenty of fully legal activities or items you might want to keep private for all manner of reasons. It also restricts legal personal exploration and experimentation which in turn affects intelligence and creativity. And what for? I have always felt that when an authority resorts to this blanket absolute surveillance it implies they're not smart and don't really know what it is they're looking for; I prefer intelligence led security. It seems in most cases terrorists are already known to the authorities; so what benefit are we getting from this?
I guess they just snoop on people with a dodgy sounding surname?
Is anyone is debating this? But as Internet gets into more places and computers get more powerful it becomes more of an issue.
Hillian1
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To monitor ALL of us ALL the time would be impossible, monitor keywords maybe like "bomb"...............shit.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,322
no quite. what some think is being told here would require in effect a duplicate internet, or at least a dupe Google. though not impossible, someone might have noticed. you have to step back and realise just how much data Google, Facebook and the like store, they have server farms that are literally farm sized and cost bonkers £ to build and run.
whats really happening as far as i can tell is they have the ability to pull data indiscriminatly and at will from the providers of the internet, or at the network level. thats a very different proposition, very feasible and very likley. however... while on the one hand its a bit "i thought they were doing that anyway, wheres the news story here", i cant help feel this Snowden chap is a bit of a Walter Mitty who's career hasnt worked out as expected, or just disillusioned with it. he's given the non-technical worlds media a glimpse of whats going on in the secret services, they've blown this into a larger picture.
Benson
Member
I always assumed Prism was there anyway. It doesn't seem any good though. Perhaps we could be presented with a couple of clear examples where this scheme has worked? It all seems like evidence gathering after the deed is done as opposed to forward intelligence to stop it.
Return of the Rev
Well-known member
freedom comes at a price and for me if that means 'listerning in' on certain people than i can't see what else the govt can be expected to do ?
as stalin said "if you want liberty it will cost"
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
The OB abuse the use of anti terrorist laws as it is, and yes I have had personal experience of this.
Benson
Member
Is Poogate the perfect crime?
LargeHadronZugzwang
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Paul Reids Sock
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If anyone from prism is reading this, I am currently with your wife while you are work
- disclaimer - this is a joke. I am not with your wife (she's far too ugly)
I don't think this got the credit it deserved! Just made me laugh out loud in the middle of a particularly important chat about my sons pre school!
mona
The Glory Game
Is this such a big story or are the guardianista metro liberals getting a touch over-excited? I sincerely hope that groups who threaten the security of the general population are subject to surveillance. To give one non-Islamist example, there are tens of thousands of people who support wildlife groups (including me). There are also a small handful of people who will use serious violence to further their aims. Is it so bad to keep an eye on them?
This whole civil liberties area is difficult and I resented being kettled by the police after the 0-5 at Palace. After the rows following the kettling of student political groups with well-connected parents, I sense the police are treating football fans better now.
It's difficult to get the balance right here but to ignore the reality that there are groups in Britain that feel killing is ok is criminal
This whole civil liberties area is difficult and I resented being kettled by the police after the 0-5 at Palace. After the rows following the kettling of student political groups with well-connected parents, I sense the police are treating football fans better now.
It's difficult to get the balance right here but to ignore the reality that there are groups in Britain that feel killing is ok is criminal