Gary Hart

[Seasider78]

I haven't read the whole of this thread but there is a lot of bollocks being written.

What everyone is forgetting is that NOW we can afford to have a few average squad back up players. So why not? Are people saying we should just let Gary go and then get in someone else average as back up. Why not keep him knowing what he can do than have someone else.

I suspect as we start to see a different outfit all together we will have to get used to the club having a bigger squad with some players there just in case, Hart and potentially Mayo are two such players. If they don't play all but a handful of games they will still be vital to the squad and the younger players in terms of experience.

I am not sure why anyone would get so cross about them being given contracts? Its not as though having them will mean we can't afford Ronaldo or whatever!! If we don't have them all it means is we need another journeyman experienced player. So whats the problem? And also I can guarantee OGH would be a damn sight more popular than some 30-odd year old from Brentford or whatever.

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[The Large One]

Ok, but if Millwall or Bournemouth had just RELEASED him would you be so keen?

That doesn't really count for too much of an argument. We've picked up players who have been released by their club. Guy Butters springs to mind. About the same age as Harty is now when we signed him etc etc

And really, the true test of whether he's good enough is to ask if he was a random trialist, let's say from Ireland, and completely unknown to us, would you be impressed enough by his current abilities to offer him a contract?

Having seen him only at Burgess Hill, I'd still not be letting him go yet.

If we retain him, I'd see him in the kind of role Currie would have had. Not so much as a corner taker or dead ball specialist, but more as someone who can come on in the last 20 minutes, add a bit more bite, and swing in a few crosses - something which, the 'bite' aside, was all that was going to be asked of Currie.

 

[bhadeb]

Maybe your precious Wilkins wasn't shit upon from such a great a height as you claim? Comments from the players (both still here and departed) would suggest that Wilkins wasn't quite as good at ALL aspects of being a manager as is required at a professional football club?

If your quote from Gary hart is true then I think that says more about Wilkins being a vindictive manager more than anything negative about Hart. Shows OGH has a sense of humour too.

Finally. Get over it-your precious Wilkins is no longer at the club and by all accounts it seems that a number of players are none too upset about that and that's good enough for me. Strange how morale seems to have improved since Wendy was shown the door...

how has morale improved - we have played In Ireland Worthing Bognor Burgess Hill and when we play Lewes we are weary (was what micky called it) what will they be doing come September - asking for a lie down halfway through the match

 

[Mr Burns]

The way I see it we allready have enough back up players who can do a job, If we really want to move on as a club then we should be signing players who are good enough to be pushing for a place in the starting eleven and putting pressure on those who are there.

As as been said by a few now, there are other opitions before Gary Hart to offer back up in the positions he plays.

If we do sign a back up for the back ups, which I can only see Hart being resigned for, surely we should sign someone who carry the title "One for the future!"

 

[Nemesis]

As i have said i would love to tell all but what i know is not too be shared - What has Ian upset Gary over his testimonial - not bad considering Dick Knight said he would give Ian a testimonial and never has - people on here have been going on about how the players feel about being released - well ian had just received player of the season when he was released and was forced to retire a year later - some players that are still able to play into their 30's want to think themselves lucky

I was wondering how long it would be before you had a pop at Dick Knight-you never disappoint on that score.

Have you considered supporting another club considering there is so much about this one that disturbs you?

 

[El Presidente]

As i have said i would love to tell all but what i know is not too be shared - What has Ian upset Gary over his testimonial - not bad considering Dick Knight said he would give Ian a testimonial and never has - people on here have been going on about how the players feel about being released - well ian had just received player of the season when he was released and was forced to retire a year later - some players that are still able to play into their 30's want to think themselves lucky

I think the consensus about Ian Chapman not getting a testimonial was that he got a very raw deal. I suspect that part of the problem was that the Albion's financial position at the time was on a knife edge, and they took the money themselves, from analysing their accounts at the time.

 

[Da Man Clay]

Fair enough, I personally think that central midfield alongside Thompson, and left back are the areas we should be prioritising, and hope that MA is going to spring a surprise on us for those gaps.

However, the relatively poor wages on offer will have an impact on the quality of players who can play in those positions.

I think we need an attacking midfielder and presume he would play alongside Livermore and a left back.

Im not so sure that our wages are that poor anymore, we must be paying fairly decent wages to attract Championship players such as McLeod, Hawkins, Virgo and Livermore.

 

[bhadeb]

I think the consensus about Ian Chapman not getting a testimonial was that he got a very raw deal. I suspect that part of the problem was that the Albion's financial position at the time was on a knife edge, and they took the money themselves, from analysing their accounts at the time.

yes i think that didn't help - but to be fair to Dick when he came along he did say that he would do a testimonial for him

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

|Maybe, but usually I would say I don't understand, please explain a bit clearer, but when I have just been called a twat, by someone with a track record of doing it, and by someone who clearly (and not for the first time) hadn't read my entire post, and then not backing up their argument, I do welcome in Mr Sarcasim.

If I'm going to call someone a twat, I'm at least ready to back it up if I get some comeback.

Oh for god sake - i've not posted on this thread in a couple of hours and you're still whining on. I really don't like using the 'binfest' term, but I apologise for starting one! I've not posted in 2 hours, yet still this apparent debate goes on.

As i've already pointed out (thus backing up) my 'twat' description was an overreaction. Apologies...but given the nature of your responses i'd have probably used it in an appropriate manner sooner or later anyway. In actual fact, i've already explained why I thought that, so to state I haven't makes a mockery of claims that I'm the one who doesn't read through posts.

Some may think Hart is past it - I don't. As Mr Burns might put it himself, "end of". I can be arsed to continue such a dull debate any longer. Again, apologies for contributing to such a pathetic conversation.

Have a nice evening all!

xx

 

[steward 433]

FIRSTLY back on topic: IT'S MICKYS TEAM LET HIM HAVE THE TOOLS HE WANTS TO DO THE JOB

Bhadeb stop hi-jacking EVERY bloody thread that Deano's name is mentioned to A: start an attack on Dick B: Defend Deano.

My own personal opinion is Gary is only 31 with a lot left going for him and fully deserves a place in the squad

 

[Nemesis]

how has morale improved - we have played In Ireland Worthing Bognor Burgess Hill and when we play Lewes we are weary (was what micky called it) what will they be doing come September - asking for a lie down halfway through the match

Are you completely stupid? Tiredness has eff all to do with morale-although I appreciate that might be difficult for you to comprehend because it doesn't involve Wilkins.

 

[Mr Burns]

Mr B, as already stated I agree with your sentiments about retaining Harty, but for the sake of your health and that of your adversaries on this board I think you should SHUT THE f*** UP now.

whos that aimed at

 

[bhadeb]

I was wondering how long it would be before you had a pop at Dick Knight-you never disappoint on that score.

Have you considered supporting another club considering there is so much about this one that disturbs you?

Why would i want to support another club - this is the team i have always supported - i am not having a pop at Dick - i have now taken the view that when it goes tits up i can sit at withdean and have a laugh at all the fans getting the hump

 

[Mr Burns]

stop panicking that you were called a twat.. you'll be alright lad

Oh, I don't mind being called a twat. I just dont like being called a twat by a twat

 

[Nemesis]

FIRSTLY back on topic: IT'S MICKYS TEAM LET HIM HAVE THE TOOLS HE WANTS TO DO THE JOB

Bhadeb stop hi-jacking EVERY bloody thread that Deano's name is mentioned to A: start an attack on Dick B: Defend Deano.

My own personal opinion is Gary is only 31 with a lot left going for him and fully deserves a place in the squad

The more 'she' appears on here, the more I'm convinced it's Wilkins

 

[El Presidente]

They may swap occasionally but let's be honest, how often does that tend to happen in a season? Only when we're having NO joy at all against the full-backs. In terms of STARTING, I'd expect to see McLeod on the teamsheet as left-winger pretty much every week. He's a decent signing by our standards, and he's come here having played in the championship last year. Doesn't sound to me like someone who's signed to sit on the bench. I think Cox is first choice right-winger as things stand (and that can only be good as he's a far better player on the right).

I agree with what you say, and look forward to McLeod and Cox getting lots of assists this season. Having said that, if our backs are against the wall against a decent side and we there are 20 minutes remaining, I would much rather have OGH come on and use his experience to shore things up than an untried youngster. There is a reason why Dixon, McFaul and others didn't get much of a run out last season, though I hope that Dixon is far better this season after a decent pre season training stint.

 

[Da Man Clay]

Why would i want to support another club - this is the team i have always supported - i am not having a pop at Dick - i have now taken the view that when it goes tits up i can sit at withdean and have a laugh at all the fans getting the hump

Are you saying that you are actually hoping the club you have always supported fails so you're thoughts on the board are possibly justified? What a sad existance.

 

[steward 433]

The more 'she' appears on here, the more I'm convinced it's Wilkins

His name is Paul as he slipped up on a thread about the argus

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[Giraffe]

The way I see it we allready have enough back up players who can do a job, If we really want to move on as a club then we should be signing players who are good enough to be pushing for a place in the starting eleven and putting pressure on those who are there.

But if we can afford it why not a couple of utility players who can probably do a job for a few games just in case rather than bringing in someone on loan who may or may not settle?