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[Albion] Full back positions



Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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So how do you see this shaping up for the rest of the season?

Are you in the “Veltman Right Back , Estupinan Left Back all game, every game” camp? Or do you think more rotation is advisable / likely?

What are your thoughts on Pascal and Webby filling in at right back?

Are you surprised Lamptey seems to be featuring more on the left side than the right?

My opinions. RDZ clearly likes Hinsh at right back, and I think even if everyone was fit, Hinsh would be starting every game. Veltman, presumably isn’t quite right and if that stays the case I can see Pascal Gross filling in there, meaning maybe more time for Moder. I just don’t think Veltman is RDZ’s automatic starter, which I guess he would be for most on here even when fit.

On the left, I also think the pecking order might be changing a bit. Estupinan played in Mitoma’s position yesterday and I can see this continuing, allowing Igor to show his calm authority when we need to defend and Tariq to show his attacking skills when we need a goal.

Barco will presumably be eased into the squad as well and will further complicate the picture.
 






Nobby Cybergoat

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RB - Veltman and Hinshelwood rotated, which manages any injuries Veltman might have and we wouldn't an 18 year old starting every game.

LB - Lamptey or Estupinan based on form.
From what we know, Hinsh is injured for a while, possibly the rest of the season.

My guess with Veltman is that he could play, but it's a risk (like Olise!) to do so. RDZ decided he didn't need to yesterday so Pascal slotted in. But soon we'll have midweek games every week, so we'll have to have another option than just Veltman
 


METALMICKY

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RB - Veltman and Hinshelwood rotated, which manages any injuries Veltman might have and we wouldn't an 18 year old starting every game.

LB - Lamptey or Estupinan based on form.
Good point about Perves. If you put aside the two long range goals since he's been back he's not been quite on it. It's a shame because the partnership down that side with Mitoma can be superb.
 






Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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From what we know, Hinsh is injured for a while, possibly the rest of the season.

My guess with Veltman is that he could play, but it's a risk (like Olise!) to do so. RDZ decided he didn't need to yesterday so Pascal slotted in. But soon we'll have midweek games every week, so we'll have to have another option than just Veltman

Thank God we haven't got the CP club doctor :lolol: . He must prop up the StarLizard doctors Excel worksheet.
 




Triggaaar

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Estupinan should get his form back. Then I'd rather Lamptey on the right than Gross, who should only be there when needs must
 




SeagullsoverLondon

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I think it is horses for courses. Veltman didn't need to come in yesterday, and Gross must have been in the right back for about 30 seconds of the 25 minutes or so he was nominally played there.
In a different game when we need to defend, Veltman would have come on.
However, I can see the Flexi 3 or 4 at the back continuing, and think that means Veltman will be used from the bench with others playing on the right.
Can see a back 3 with Dunk JPVH and Igor becoming more regular over the coming weeks.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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I think it is horses for courses. Veltman didn't need to come in yesterday, and Gross must have been in the right back for about 30 seconds of the 25 minutes or so he was nominally played there.
In a different game when we need to defend, Veltman would have come on.
However, I can see the Flexi 3 or 4 at the back continuing, and think that means Veltman will be used from the bench with others playing on the right.
Can see a back 3 with Dunk JPVH and Igor becoming more regular over the coming weeks.
I think this is the thing. Yesterday, the second half was a odd situation, the game was over and we could just treat it as training. They offered next to no attacking threat and so it gives us few clues as to RDZ thinking or the injury situation with Veltman

In a big game, Gross at right back is a different matter. I remember he did a decent job against Rashford at Wembley last Spring at RB. But the trouble, is, you're losing a terrific midfielder.
 


Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Estupinan should get his form back. Then I'd rather Lamptey on the right than Gross, who should only be there when needs must
And Gross should definitely be ahead of Adam Webster on that list.
 




Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Interesting to see how Barco affects this, or will he just be rotated in with Mitoma and Adingra?

The idea of always being able to keep one of the 3 fresh is exciting.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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And Gross should definitely be ahead of Adam Webster on that list.
I actually think Webby is a perfectly good 3rd or 4th choice CB. But at right back against a proper PL team, he'll be targeted. Similarly don't really want Milner lining up at full back either
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Interesting to see how Barco affects this, or will he just be rotated in with Mitoma and Adingra?

The idea of always being able to keep one of the 3 fresh is exciting.
And Pedro might feature out wide soon, similarly, Enciso, Facu, Tariq.

Options, options!
 




amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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Certainly not so confident when we play 3 at back Prefer 4 with 2 FBs May have been an easy game on Sunday but Sheffield still looked dangerous when our CBs looked uncomfortable defending in wide areas and better sides would have made more of it. Felt Lampty was in no mans land He did little defending and not needed on left wing as Matoma dominated that area
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Veltman & Estupinan/Igor against stronger attacking teams
2 from lamptey/Estupinan/Barco/Gross against weaker teams
 




Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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I LOVE RDZ, am fully on board with everything, but let's be honest, we are weaker defensively than under Potter.

Don't get wrong, I wouldn't swap for the world as we're miles better attacking wise, but yeah it's the old short rug analogy a bit, isn't it?
 




Comrade Sam

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Jan 31, 2013
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I LOVE RDZ, am fully on board with everything, but let's be honest, we are weaker defensively than under Potter.

Don't get wrong, I wouldn't swap for the world as we're miles better attacking wise, but yeah it's the old short rug analogy a bit, isn't it?
Potter played with 5 across the back, whilst now that spare man is in attack - hence we score more, concede more.
 




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