From Marina Pepper.......

[Addiseagull]

I got this reply back from Marina Pepper when asking for her comments... I can't help thinking this AONB thing will haunt us..

Any thoughts....?

By the way, no idea why she signed it with 'peace and love'!

I think you might be surprised at what "other" papers may or may not say. You see the pity of it is, most of us don't get to hear or see much of "actual" facts, the decisions made in smoke filled rooms and chequered halls.

We are all guided or lead by others' passions on both sides of evey gulf in public opinion. The majority sit in the middle thinking neither one thing or another and indeed cherry pick the bits that allow them to continue with their disengagement in peace.

I personally don't see this as an argument about a stadium. It's quite obvious the city has needed one for years. That is not the issue. At least not for me.

I see it - and I await the eventual outcome to be satisfied that we have a way of progressing - as an important debate on the importance of urban fringe. Can we build park and rides, sewage works and car parks on land that has been designated to be left alone? Is it important to protect our edges or to see them as nothing more than potential sites for development?

This final chapter of inquiry will settle it and we can either build with impunity out from our cities or we can develop a proper set of rules of engagement - which as yet do not appear to exist. Or rather the grey area is so grey the "right" way blows in the wind of political fortune.

It's important that we all remember this. IT'S NOT ABOUT FOOTBALL IT'S ABOUT PLANNING REGULATIONS. I am truly fascinated as we all wait (some months I fear) for a final outcome.
And by that time, Prescott may not even be in power.

I must state clearly that this is my personal opinion, not that of the council. But that doesn't mean my views are that different. Only that it's not my position to comment and nothing I say can be attributed to the council. This is in part due to the judicial nature of the challenge.

Peace and love as always
Marina
xxx

 

[Lady Bracknell]

You've been favoured! Some people only get lots of kisses at the end of their emails from the Fragrant Marina.

However, I think the AONB issue was clearly set out in the ODPM's decision letter where he commented on PP7 and how a community stadium at Falmer met the conditions for a development in an AONB.

Now LDC cannot and will not accept this and some of them continue to weasel their way out of their opposition to the stadium by insisting that their interest is only in proving a planning point. I say this is bollocks, personally. But than that's just my opinion.

 

[sparkie]

All I keep hearing is the 'Prescott may not be in power' line... It's as if all anti-stadium hopes are hung on delaying things until there's a new secretary of state. Thing is, though, I can't even see a different secretary of state overruling Prescott's ruling anyway.

 

[Hannibal smith]

By the way, no idea why she signed it with 'peace and love'!

Peace and love as always
Marina
xxx

Right o - That's your story is it? If you are slipping her one, at least you can try and convince her that Falmer is the best site for a stadium.

 

[Addiseagull]

I suppose its worth a go if it gets her off our case...

Anyone know what she looks like? Pictures??

 

[Barnet Seagull]

"I see it - and I await the eventual outcome to be satisfied that we have a way of progressing - as an important debate on the importance of urban fringe. Can we build park and rides, sewage works and car parks on land that has been designated to be left alone? Is it important to protect our edges or to see them as nothing more than potential sites for development?"

"Designated to be left alone"

:clueless:

 

[Barnet Seagull]

Isn't she a former page 3 model and witch or something?

 

[Gwylan]

Isn't Marina Pepper the former Page 3 pin-up and practising witch?

She's...er, different from the usual councillor.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

SNAP.


I win.

 

[clapham_gull]

Yep, ex page 3 and playboy model. They had an interview with her in the Sun a few weeks ago.

 

[Hannibal smith]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3331717.stm

Can't really see her bangers but her boat dosen't look like model material...

 

[Gwylan]

SNAP.


I win.

Damn, yes...but I have her wikipedia entry and a pic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Baker

 

[Barnet Seagull]

Damn, yes...but I have her wikipedia entry and a pic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Baker

 

[Man of Harveys]

First one of you two to come up with any, ahem, more revealing pics WINS.

 

[Pigsy]

google image search with "Marina Baker" does that job

 

[Dave the OAP]

I got this reply back from Marina Pepper when asking for her comments... I can't help thinking this AONB thing will haunt us..

Any thoughts....?



I personally don't see this as an argument about a stadium. It's quite obvious the city has needed one for years. That is not the issue. At least not for me.

I see it - and I await the eventual outcome to be satisfied that we have a way of progressing - as an important debate on the importance of urban fringe. Can we build park and rides, sewage works and car parks on land that has been designated to be left alone? Is it important to protect our edges or to see them as nothing more than potential sites for development?



It's important that we all remember this. IT'S NOT ABOUT FOOTBALL IT'S ABOUT PLANNING REGULATIONS. xxx

I know this is not the accepted thought , however I posted last week that my mate who works for ESCC also said the same thing.

The issue is not the stadium, its the fact that if this goes ahead, there are people who would use it as an argument to drive a horse and carriage through the current ANOB/Green belt proposals.

You can imaging Sainsbury's ( with their clever lawyers and unlimited funds )putting in planning permission for a supermarket to be built next door to the stadium and when B&H UA tell them to feck off, they would persue it siting Albion as a precedent.

I think that is LDC's main concern

 

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

Re: Re: From Marina Pepper.......

I know this is not the accepted thought , however I posted last week that my mate who works for ESCC also said the same thing.

The issue is not the stadium, its the fact that if this goes ahead, there are people who would use it as an argument to drive a horse and carriage through the current ANOB/Green belt proposals.

You can imaging Sainsbury's ( with their clever lawyers and unlimited funds )putting in planning permission for a supermarket to be built next door to the stadium and when B&H UA tell them to feck off, they would persue it siting Albion as a precedent.

I think that is LDC's main concern

I knew something wasn't right. You're one of them aren't you?

BURN HIM!

 

[Dave the OAP]

Re: Re: Re: From Marina Pepper.......

I knew something wasn't right. You're one of them aren't you?

BURN HIM!

No...but I know a man who is

 

[vauxhallexile]

Re: Re: From Marina Pepper.......

I know this is not the accepted thought , however I posted last week that my mate who works for ESCC also said the same thing.

The issue is not the stadium, its the fact that if this goes ahead, there are people who would use it as an argument to drive a horse and carriage through the current ANOB/Green belt proposals.

You can imaging Sainsbury's ( with their clever lawyers and unlimited funds )putting in planning permission for a supermarket to be built next door to the stadium and when B&H UA tell them to feck off, they would persue it siting Albion as a precedent.

I think that is LDC's main concern

It was very much a concern put to me by a Lewes District Councillor this week; so it looks like you are right. Anything that can be done to assuage LDCs fears on this would be helpful.

 

[Gwylan]

Re: Re: Re: From Marina Pepper.......

It was very much a concern put to me by a Lewes District Councillor this week; so it looks like you are right. Anything that can be done to assuage LDCs fears on this would be helpful.

I think this is the wrong way round. We should be asking LDC whether they would be fighting this so hard if the plans for the Falmer redevelopment were for a supermarket rather than a stadium.

It's not a hypothetical question as Ken Bodfish has already indicated that the land that the stadium will be built on has already been earmarked for development.

My gut feeling is that Lewes wouldn't be creating such a stink if, for example, Waitrose or Sainsbury's were to build a massive store there.