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Seagull27

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Actually this is one of the first things that's come out of Brexit that I think is a good outcome. We're going to need GE/GM crops to keep up with climate change, decreasing biodiversity and population growth, and despite the sci-fi movies suggesting otherwise they will be perfectly safe and nutritious.
 


beorhthelm

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we already manipulate genes and landrace of crops though selective breeding. this is taking it to next generation, like going from typewritter to computer for writing.
there are issues around patents, but other than them lets get a move on with technology that could solve so many problems in the world, from famine, to nutrition, to climate.
 


The Clamp

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If it helps the climate, then I welcome it. However I can only envision huge food corporations exploiting the tech to rear even larger herds of animals.
However, if they make square pigs and maybe floating cows, I’m in.
 




banjo

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Oct 25, 2011
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If it helps the climate, then I welcome it. However I can only envision huge food corporations exploiting the tech to rear even larger herds of animals.
However, if they make square pigs and maybe floating cows, I’m in.

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It’s already square.
 


The Clamp

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we already manipulate genes and landrace of crops though selective breeding. this is taking it to next generation, like going from typewritter to computer for writing.
there are issues around patents, but other than them lets get a move on with technology that could solve so many problems in the world, from famine, to nutrition, to climate.

What do these new methods involve? ie what’s the science behind it and what’s the end result? Or the desired result?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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“A tomato with extra vitamin C”

Why not eat an orange instead?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Two clues it is probably not good for you;

It was banned under EU regulations
Boris Johnson reckons it’s a good idea.

Good point well made.
 


The Clamp

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“A tomato with extra vitamin C”

Why not eat an orange instead?

These things are ultimately useless. Those who eat tomatoes in their diet probably get enough vitamin C. The fact they eat tomatoes indicates they probably have a good diet. Or like a BLT.

If they could make Tom’s less acidic, I’m on board with that.
 


WATFORD zero

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Well, apparently it will be a vegetarian menu

The monster is a vegetarian. While speaking to Frankenstein, he tells him, "My food is not that of man; I do not destroy the lamb and the kid to glut my appetite; acorns and berries afford me sufficient nourishment...The picture I present to you is peaceful and human." At the time the novel was written, many writers, including Percy Shelley in A Vindication of Natural Diet, argued that practicing vegetarianism was the morally right thing to do.

A man ahead of his time :thumbsup:
 




Seagull27

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What do these new methods involve? ie what’s the science behind it and what’s the end result? Or the desired result?
It's basically the same as selective breeding, but instead of waiting potentially many generations for DNA to randomly combine until you get the desired traits, you get them straight away by altering the DNA to produce those traits.

It would be used to make crops more weather resistant, disease resistant, increase yield, make them capable of growing in smaller spaces etc

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanaba...r-is-transforming-agricultural-biotechnology/

The key bit - and distinguishing GE from GM:

"The introduction of foreign genes into plants is one of the main controversies. However, Inari is not introducing outside genes into its crops. Instead, the company is altering genes that already exist in the plants through gene editing."
 


The Clamp

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It's basically the same as selective breeding, but instead of waiting potentially many generations for DNA to randomly combine until you get the desired traits, you get them straight away by altering the DNA to produce those traits.

It would be used to make crops more weather resistant, disease resistant, increase yield, make them capable of growing in smaller spaces etc

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanaba...r-is-transforming-agricultural-biotechnology/

The key bit - and distinguishing GE from GM:

"The introduction of foreign genes into plants is one of the main controversies. However, Inari is not introducing outside genes into its crops. Instead, the company is altering genes that already exist in the plants through gene editing."

Much appreciated but I was specifically asking Beorthelm.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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What do these new methods involve? ie what’s the science behind it and what’s the end result? Or the desired result?

science is gene splicing and end result is vaccines based on mRNA and cancer treatment. its fabulous advance for medicines, lets do similar with food to enhance their qualities.
 




The Clamp

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science is gene splicing and end result is vaccines based on mRNA and cancer treatment. its fabulous advance for medicines, lets do similar with food to enhance their qualities.

Oh. It’s just you seemed to know what you were talking about. I see now, you don’t.
 


The Optimist

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Two clues it is probably not good for you;

It was banned under EU regulations
Boris Johnson reckons it’s a good idea.

This is a good illustration of how certain issues can become political when they shouldn't be. Whether GM food is safe or not should be a scientific and not political issue. A similar example is how taking action on climate change is seen as a policy of the left (especially in the USA), but it should be a scientific issue not political.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Oh. It’s just you seemed to know what you were talking about. I see now, you don’t.

thanks. i'd forgetten i'd ignored you so long. carry on.
 








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