Fox Hunts

[lincs seagull]

Oh, but its their "way of life" innit. Its their LIVELIHOOD.

Tough shit. If you make a living off the back of torturing animals for fun, then I'm GLAD you're out of a job. Go and do something else, you bunch of 16th century inbred freaks.

And they say people who live in the country are thick bigots with no idea of what goes on out side there door

reading that post just proves it wrong

 

[Easy 10]

that was written before your response lincs, and it wasn't directed at you personally. But I stand by the sentiments - the fact that people make their living out of this obscene activity does not mean that it could not or should not be banned.

 

[Starry]

Oh, but its their "way of life" innit. Its their LIVELIHOOD.

Tough shit. If you make a living off the back of torturing animals for fun, then I'm GLAD you're out of a job. Go and do something else, you bunch of 16th century inbred freaks.

Thanks, but I, nor my children, my parents or any of my family are inbred freaks.

 

[CHAPPERS]

I just see the money coming in to not shot foxes and keep some of the land unfarmed from this yes sometimes barbarick sport.

Until you great people come up with another way to earn money to replace what the country side will loss. Stop preaching. There are 1000 of bigger issues in the country that need sorting before this.

Could you explain what hunting brings to the countryside please, we always hear that it does so much for the communities but not exactly what. Until I do I'm not going to change my opinion at all.

Not a dig, just interested.

ps There may be more important things but a lot of people feel pretty strongly on this subject, as the thousands of twats tath marched on Parliament and dumped carcasses in our very own streets proved.

pps If banning hunting pisses those twats off that dumped those carcasses then I'm all for it. Some people think they can literally get away with murder just because they've got money and it ain't right.

 

[lincs seagull]

that was written before your response lincs, and it wasn't directed at you personally. But I stand by the sentiments - the fact that people make their living out of this obscene activity does not mean that it could not or should not be banned.

Things that get me easy is that as soon as you say something about fox hunting that not kill the wankers people think you are pro.

I have had enought from previous threads about its the farmers fault they are the evil bastards

They are trying to survive and any money to keep you afloat is welcome who ever gives them it.

It the same thing every where its easy for people to say to us stop the hunt on your land but whos going to give us lost revnue?.

I am more angry at some of the people on here for there attutide to the farming side than the twats who chase foxes.

if people are going to direct abuse direct at the right people

 

[Easy 10]

if people are going to direct abuse direct at the right people

Point accepted, perhaps I was a bit "scattergun".

I still find it an immotive subject though, and the patronising "way of life" arguments trotted out by the pro-hunt brigade to try to justify their activities, and the utter bloody-minded in-your-face outright refusal of some of them to abide by the law now its been passed, really does rub me up the wrong way. I feel like kicking the TV in when those prats are on the news.

 

[lincs seagull]

Could you explain what hunting brings to the countryside please, we always hear that it does so much for the communities but not exactly what. Until I do I'm not going to change my opinion at all.

Not a dig, just interested.

ps There may be more important things but a lot of people feel pretty strongly on this subject, as the thousands of twats tath marched on Parliament and dumped carcasses in our very own streets proved.

pps If banning hunting pisses those twats off that dumped those carcasses then I'm all for it. Some people think they can literally get away with murder just because they've got money and it ain't right.

Ahh a civil question

Ok then

Horses well there is a big buisness in the breeding and selling quality horses that can be sold to the Hunters this employs pepole directly

Mangers accountants, general workers looking after the horses, Transport people to move stock around. then the suppliers of feed to the stables and bedding. Vets ( not your rich domestic vets). Horse related business clothes and fariers. Hunting goes so does a large % of jobs not all stables breed race horses.

Hounds Very similar to horses for there needs but another large work force is needed in all areas. These Hounds dont make good pets so destroying this acient breed and shuting down very good Kennels would be defenate.

Land owners.

Payed by many hunts to let them use there land to run across this helps preseve the ancint country side and reduces the amount of ploughed fields. Money is very important to a lot of farmers now althought the hunts going will not push most over the edge it will hammer one of the final ones in there

Linked to the farmers reduced cash flow knocks on to reduced labour for the land work. reduced purchase of new machnery for the farms so big tractor firms and small local firms feel tighter pinch more going over the limit and bust

the local commuinty becomes fragmented local people who have lived in the area forced to work further afield to get jobs possibly moving away whole infrasturcture crumbles away.

you have a face less country side with no one managing it

Ok worse case there but the loss of a very big country buisness for people could cause major employment issues and send area of the country side in to recession

You can see why some of us are worried and althought dont agree with the hunt need it to survive. and live a comftable life

As a point of intrest my in laws will not let the hunt on there land not because of a stance but it ruins the crop.

 

[lincs seagull]

Point accepted, perhaps I was a bit "scattergun".

I still find it an immotive subject though, and the patronising "way of life" arguments trotted out by the pro-hunt brigade to try to justify their activities, and the utter bloody-minded in-your-face outright refusal of some of them to abide by the law now its been passed, really does rub me up the wrong way. I feel like kicking the TV in when those prats are on the news.

The real extreme pro hunters are digging the hole and buring them self in there blantent lets show the press we are still killing foxes.

A lot of friends agree with me that a quiet approach to the ban and let the dust settle is so much better

I was disgusted by the march at brighton and can only appolgise to you for that

And i know your view but Farming ahould not be blamed as part of the fox hunt issues

 

[CHAPPERS]

Ahh a civil question

Ok then

Horses well there is a big buisness in the breeding and selling quality horses that can be sold to the Hunters this employs pepole directly

Mangers accountants, general workers looking after the horses, Transport people to move stock around. then the suppliers of feed to the stables and bedding. Vets ( not your rich domestic vets). Horse related business clothes and fariers. Hunting goes so does a large % of jobs not all stables breed race horses.

Hounds Very similar to horses for there needs but another large work force is needed in all areas. These Hounds dont make good pets so destroying this acient breed and shuting down very good Kennels would be defenate.

Land owners.

Payed by many hunts to let them use there land to run across this helps preseve the ancint country side and reduces the amount of ploughed fields. Money is very important to a lot of farmers now althought the hunts going will not push most over the edge it will hammer one of the final ones in there

Linked to the farmers reduced cash flow knocks on to reduced labour for the land work. reduced purchase of new machnery for the farms so big tractor firms and small local firms feel tighter pinch more going over the limit and bust

the local commuinty becomes fragmented local people who have lived in the area forced to work further afield to get jobs possibly moving away whole infrasturcture crumbles away.

you have a face less country side with no one managing it

Ok worse case there but the loss of a very big country buisness for people could cause major employment issues and send area of the country side in to recession

You can see why some of us are worried and althought dont agree with the hunt need it to survive. and live a comftable life

As a point of intrest my in laws will not let the hunt on there land not because of a stance but it ruins the crop.

So, you could actually argue that drag hunting could continue and the business side of things would remain?

 

[lincs seagull]

So, you could actually argue that drag hunting could continue and the business side of things would remain?

Yes if the core of the idea of hunting happened then the industry would remain

But i agree that neither side can come to common ground on this as the anti hunt dont even want this and the pro hunts story about if we accidently flush a fox and the hounds chase story is also is wrong

Incidentally before the hunt ban the fox hunting members and the meets where in steady decline with less people going to them as public opion changed

the forced ban has increased turn ou tto its highest in 150 years i really do think that the goverment have scored an own goal on this

 

[Easy 10]

The real extreme pro hunters are digging the hole and buring them self in there blantent lets show the press we are still killing foxes.

A lot of friends agree with me that a quiet approach to the ban and let the dust settle is so much better

I was disgusted by the march at brighton and can only appolgise to you for that

And i know your view but Farming ahould not be blamed as part of the fox hunt issues

As always, its the extremists who make the news, and although they're not a representative of how the majority behave, their actions do put the whole campaign in an appalling light.

Don't feel you should apologise at all lincs - its not your fault some people choose to behave like moronic thugs. We can only be responsible for our own actions.

 

[3gulls]

I think that if the hunting of foxes is banned, the hunting of trespassing swampie-sabs should be allowed - they are just druggie scum.

 

[caz99]

suppose that means that you where in the pickett line then

CONSIDERING I WAS ONLY A TODDLER NO

 

[caz99]

CONSIDERING I WAS ONLY A TODDLER NO

also are you seriously trying to say that the only way farmers and countryside folk make their living is through fox hunting. you seem to imply that the majority of the countryside dwellers rely on hunting for income. i think you will find its probably a minority

 

[Steph]

I used to have a horse which I kept on a chicken farm. If a fox came anywhere near the farmer shot it - no problem.

We live in an area of beautiful countryside and you don't need to be galloping around chasing a fox to enjoy it!

 

[Raphael Meade]

'quadtriples'

you should come and join us at nsp

 

[CHAPPERS]

I think that if the hunting of foxes is banned, the hunting of trespassing swampie-sabs should be allowed - they are just druggie scum.

That's because you're a bit of a twat though innit?

 

[GUNTER]

I'd like to get a blunderbuss and blast them (the foxhunters) off their horses! Bloody condecending toffs with no manners.

 

[e77]

I am anti fox hunting as I think it cruel but winding up toffs is certainly a bonus !

 

[Spiros]

that was written before your response lincs, and it wasn't directed at you personally. But I stand by the sentiments - the fact that people make their living out of this obscene activity does not mean that it could not or should not be banned.

Just because you and others find it obscene isn't necessarily a good reason to ban it. A lot of the same people who find fox hunting obscene have no problem with pornography, equally to some fox hunting is OK and pornography is obscene.

Personally I have no wish to join or witness a fox hunt but I also hate the way some in the current government want to impose their moral 'standards' on others. I don't think townies should be telling those in the country how to live their lives any more than the French should tell us how to live ours. I'd rather the parliamentary time had been spent dealing with all of the problems in schools, hospitals and with transport.

On the fox population question, the fox & rabbit populations are directly linked. As the fox numbers increase, so rabbit numbers decline as they get eaten faster than they can breed. Then the foxes decline as the food source dwindles - this allows the fast-breeding rabbits to increase in numbers as they breed faster than foxes. The fox population then increases as there is plenty of food and the cycle starts all over again. I bet you feel better for knowing that...