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Fourth Investec Ashes Test, England v Australia, Chester le Street 9-13 Aug 2013







Titanic

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and AGAIN!!

Khawaja gone for a DUCK... caught behind off the toe end, good low catch going the wrong way from Matt Prior.

12-2 :clap:
 






















Titanic

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So that is a double poor decision from Tony Hill... given out caught when he didn't hit it (a clear HOWLER), and not out LBW when it was (with a small margin for error perhaps that is not an absolute HOWLER).
 






pasty

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So let me get this straight. He was given out caught behind, reviewed it, no edge so over ruled, but WAS out lbw, but because England didn't appeal for lbw he stays in. WTF :shrug:
 


Titanic

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So let me get this straight. He was given out caught behind, reviewed it, no edge so over ruled, but WAS out lbw, but because England didn't appeal for lbw he stays in. WTF :shrug:

No, it is not because England didn't appeal... because they did (as an appeal is not specific to a particular mode of dismissal).. it is because Tony Hill gave him out CAUGHT and not LBW.

Having said that, if Hill has realised he hadn't hit it, and had given it out LBW (which was perfectly possible), it would have still been OUT on review. Clear?
 






Billy the Fish

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So let me get this straight. He was given out caught behind, reviewed it, no edge so over ruled, but WAS out lbw, but because England didn't appeal for lbw he stays in. WTF :shrug:

The important point being that it didn't look like an lbw, it always looked too high. People need to be careful what they wish for, if they start giving lbw for every sing ball that clips the stumps like that I think it'll ruin the game
 




No, it is not because England didn't appeal... because they did (as an appeal is not specific to a particular mode of dismissal).. it is because Tony Hill gave him out CAUGHT and not LBW.

Having said that, if Hill has realised he hadn't hit it, and had given it out LBW (which was perfectly possible), it would have still been OUT on review. Clear?

I think so, he was given out caught behind so the umpire thought the bat hit the ball, as he thought the bat hit the ball it could not have been given as lbw.

Yes?
 






pasty

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I think so, he was given out caught behind so the umpire thought the bat hit the ball, as he thought the bat hit the ball it could not have been given as lbw.

Yes?

Good clear explanation.

So, if for arguments sake it had been the other way round what would have been the decision? i.e. if an umpire gives someone out lbw, but an edge shows up which the wicket keeper caught, then the lbw is decision is not out, but would the batsman be given out caught behind?
 


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