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[News] Flying from Heathrow today (Fri 21 March) or picking up please read
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Where’s this guy when you need him?
Thanks for the heads up!
Home and Away
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I don't think it's a coincidence that it happens the same day Starmer meets with 'coalition of the willing' to discuss ceasefire in Ukraine and has a direct attack on Putin about him not being trustworthy. Power games. Hybrid warfare.
Could you order some on uber eats or similar for them?
Thanks but all local shops / supermarkets are without power. I don't know the size of the area that is down. All the granparents (except for me) are in Southampton so they will probably just pack the car up and head south!
Hayes fire: What we did to help - Hillingdon Council
Hillingdon Council is working closely with partners to respond to a significant fire that started last night (Thursday 20 March) at an electrical substation in Nestles Avenue, Hayes.www.hillingdon.gov.uk
Hope this helps.
Can yr daughter charge phone in a car, go to local shop or supermarket cafe, I'm sure someone would help.
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so it’s not just a substation, it’s the handoff from the National Grid to SSEN. There is power in / around the airport but it’s not reliable and the issue is the knock on effect of everything else around the airport.
The DR / BCP experts can go back to bed now
The DR / BCP experts can go back to bed now
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Home and Away
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Imeages from the station on Sky right now
In my working life as an IT project manager we’d never have dreamt of installing infrastructure of national importance without diverse routing of power and signal. Were I to be Heathrow service manager for infrastructure I wouldn’t be able to sleep knowing Heathrow was dependent on one sub-station.
You can’t just build your own power network can you. You’re reliant on the national grid & the govt to build it. Below is a good insight to the challenges
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Stealing a living.
Shropshire Seagull
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Doesn't matter.
If the requirement is N the solution must be N+1
I agree, but you could provide a second feed from a different sub-station. It’d be expensive, but we’re talking national infrastructure here. Before we build a third runway maybe we could provide a second power supply.
SkirlieWirlie
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Agree to protect against an incident caused accidentally or by an 'act of god', but more difficult to mitigate if a deliberate and malicious attack.
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What does this mean?
Shropshire Seagull
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Maybe not, but there is ALWAYS a way.
Whilst at Rolls Royce @ Derby project managing a new Data Centre facility I learned that the whole RR site there has TWO direct feeds from the 2 nearest power stations.
Part of their original location decision was not more than 50 miles away from 2 power stations.
The DR DC had to also be more then 50 miles from the primary DC
Similarly, HMRCs DR DC was a long way from primary and both had duel 3 phase power connection to the National Grid.
I believe the NATS centre at Swanick was built with DR to the DR for power supply.
I recall a CEO saying something like "we will spend up to the cost of a disaster impact on preventing it where the probability and risk indicate we should" ...
It’s not just a substation - it’s the main handoff from the NG to local power. Like I said Heathrow isn’t in darkness and T5 seems fine so there is some resilience obviously
Shropshire Seagull
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Indeed the risk log can be endless.
Often, the location of the DR data centre location will be kept secret / need to know basis to minimise a targeted attack causing a total outage.
When I managed WH Smith's DC relocation project they wouldn't tell us where the DR site was until about a month before the scheduled move date. NDA all signed first ...