Fathers' rights, or the lack of them....
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British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
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It's just typical of the attitude towards father's right's these days ( or should I say lack of them ) 
ben andrews' girlfriend
Nurse Laura
Says to me that people should use contraception.
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Well yes obviously getting pregnant from a one night stand isn't the smartest thing to do, but surely the father should at least know that he's going to have a son?
ben andrews' girlfriend
Nurse Laura
I think he should, but it is a difficult case if the child is being put up for adoption.
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The thing is when a family split up, it's a given that the father will have to pay child support, as he should. This suggests to me that both parents have equal rights and responsibilities over their child. This case seems to be taking them away to the point that the mother doesn't even have to tell the father that he is one if she doesn't want to.
He should have asked her to swallow instead, unless of course he shot his duff inside her as soon as he slipped her a length, which of course would NEVER happen to an NSC'er, would it?
ben andrews' girlfriend
Nurse Laura
But then if you think about abortions, men cannot force women whether or not to have them. It's not that I'm against the father knowing, but there is a fundamental argument that maybe sometimes, the mother should have some decisions that may or may not be entirely ethical.
NMH
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Yes lads, unless you have a mutual agreement to procreate, it really doesn't make a whit of difference to you, when you come inside a woman, whether that leads to a baby or not. If you decide beforehand to use contraception, you have at least got that control to (probably) not make a baby happen. In my opinion, all this 'wanting a right to your child' stuff is pointless and egotistical, unless you planned with a girl to become parents - or she has successfully sued you to pay towards the upbringing of said child.
It was just another 9cc of sperm, that you didn't care anything about other than to release it? Then why should you have any say because one of those little racers made it all the way on his own, to its' ultimate destination?
It was just another 9cc of sperm, that you didn't care anything about other than to release it? Then why should you have any say because one of those little racers made it all the way on his own, to its' ultimate destination?
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larus
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I can accept that to a certain extent BAG, but men do seem to get a raw deal in the whole access, maintenance, anonymity (I believe sperm donars either can't now not be traced by the child - or maybe this was just a proposal).
If a woman wants to have an abortion, that's her choice. If she wants to keep the child but the man wants it terminated, he still has to pay maintenance, and this may be from a one-night stand.
There should be consistency.
If a woman gets pregnant (assuming she has taken precautions) and she's not in a premanant relationship, but decides to keep the child even though the man doesn't want to be involved, it seems unfair to expect maintenance for maybe 21 years for a one-night stand.
If a woman wants to have an abortion, that's her choice. If she wants to keep the child but the man wants it terminated, he still has to pay maintenance, and this may be from a one-night stand.
There should be consistency.
If a woman gets pregnant (assuming she has taken precautions) and she's not in a premanant relationship, but decides to keep the child even though the man doesn't want to be involved, it seems unfair to expect maintenance for maybe 21 years for a one-night stand.
That's why the man should take precautions too. Unfair? Probably. Make sure you don't get caught.
I am speaking from the point of view of a half sister who's brother got caught by a girl lying to him saying she was still taking the pill. She wanted to get pregnant.
Clothes Peg
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- Mar 3, 2007
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Surely you could just claim that you don't know who the father is. That would clear the whole thing up. And considering it was a one night stand, that would be entirely believable.
larus
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The 'safest' (in terms of reliability, not health) form of contraception is the pill. I've never got on with Durex, and they can split. Therefore, there are certain holes
in your argument.Yes, men should take more responsibility, but honesty needs to be forthcoming as well.
This subject is a minefield, and views can become polarised.
larus
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The issue is more about the mans rights, not the womans. Yes, it a woman says she doesn't know, then it's hard to track down the father. If a woman says it was 1 of 3 men and they have to have a DNA test, they can't deny that they are the father.
DNA testing soon sorts that one.
But then they would have to let the father know he might be a father!
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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I always try not to take a viewpoint on situations like this without knowing the personal circumstances.
It does however raise a the question that IF the woman changes her mind, can the authorities THEN start chasing the man for maintenance ?
I would like to think that if she has made that decision, she should stick to it.
It does however raise a the question that IF the woman changes her mind, can the authorities THEN start chasing the man for maintenance ?
I would like to think that if she has made that decision, she should stick to it.
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Not sure that's relevant here as she's said she wants it to be adopted as soon as it's born. Even so, I think the father should at the very least know she's produced a child, as surely it's his as much as hers and he should have SOME say...
Lord Bracknell
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It seems to me to be perfectly reasonable for a mature adult woman to take the rational decision that she doesn't want a man who she judges unsuitable to go anywhere near the upbringing of her child - particularly since he plainly never took the trouble to find out that he'd made her pregnant.
She is acting responsibly. He has no rights at all.
She is acting responsibly. He has no rights at all.