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[Billy the Fish]

So you wouldn't mind being called a c*nt for doing your job? When you wake up and join us in the real world let us know.

Go and work on any building site in London, it doesn't get any more 'real world' than that. If the labourers started crying every time they were called a c**t by the blokes they're labouring for they'd last about 5 minutes.

Still a stupid thread, people really need to learn to live and let live.

 

[Working class pride]

It's not so much the choice of word that I have the issue with (although it's almost the worst he could have picked), it's the way it's said and who it's to.
If it was at a Burnley player, I couldn't have cared less but because it was aimed at Buckley who had a fair game it's just madness.

But that is the point, people just get players they dont like, no matter how daft it is. A mate of mine told me about a player for another club who scored a hat trick. One bloke in the stands who had spent the season slagging him off just commented that he hadnt done sod all for the rest of the season. Fantastic, the player just couldn't win, now ho funny must that have been!

 

[Conkers]

Still a stupid thread, people really need to learn to live and let live.

At least it wasn't another Dean Hammond thread!
I'm sure the choice word used on Saturday will get used again and will be aimed at Hammond no doubt

 

[marshy68]

WHO on earth would say that?? Clearly a first class prick

apparently it was buckley's dad - his harshest critic.....

 

[Arkwright]

It's football, we have all said / shouted something and maybe regretted it later. If the player can make an honest mistake so can the fans.

I got bored at Saints away listening to the bloke next to me calling Danny Harding a "f*cking c*nt" for 90 minutes, I said nothing as it's football and we all express ourselves in different ways.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable but it goes on week in week out.

 

[Billy the Fish]

At least it wasn't another Dean Hammond thread!
I'm sure the choice word used on Saturday will get used again and will be aimed at Hammond no doubt

Very true, and perversely I've been arguing on the hammond threads that swearing at the fans is really bad and hammond deserves a good booing!

Double standards possibly, I'm trying to think of a way to justify it to myself

 

[FalmerforAll!**]

Blimey, your intelligence is REALLY on the wane. I asked if you thought the term "Wendy Wilkins" was on a par with calling someone a see you next Tuesday. I also asked you to explain what is 'funny' about it. Your 'referral' does neither...

In fact your "everyone does it" argument is pretty lame, if I'm honest. Why? Well 1) NOT everyone does it; 2) Even if everyone did do it, it doesn't make it right; and 3) It's an easy get out of answering or responding to some pretty reasonable scenarios that people have put forward.

I'd ask you to refer me to where I suggested the term 'Wendy Wilkins' was on par with the word ****? I'd also ask you to refer me to where I suggested it was funny?

1) No they don't, what's your point? I have never suggested that everyone does it, that's not my argument at all.
2) As above
3) Errrr give me one reasonable scenario

The point I have made over and over is that it HAPPENS. Not just at BHAFC but at every single football club. The other point I have made is that players are professional and therefore ACCEPT and get on with it, despite hearing abuse at (I would argue) every single game they plan in. This leads me to question that, if it doesn't bother them (as we've had no press conferences/tweets/etc saying that a player wants the "abuse" to stop) then why should it bother you? It happens. End of.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Anyone who hasn't had the occasional sweary/drunken/frustrated rant at a player at an away game probably goes on the Costa lovebus with their mum.

 

[The Peanut Roaster]

So the guy loudly called him a ****.

I quietly called him lazy.

The Burnley fans called people that had a corner shop Pakis.( and before you start, I'm afraid that's just the way it is there.)

Which of the above 3 are worse?

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Oh come on, we may have a superb ground, good team, not bad kit, and a future but that should not deprive us from finding something to moan about...

On the swearing front, yes it gets annoying when some people constantly swear but the odd expletive is something we should put up with, especially if its totally un called for and directed at one of our best players as that really is comedy in action. Maybe Buckley will be our next Wendy Wilkins..

Oh I don't care about the swearing and I can see it can be a the comedy element at away games - perhaps I'm equating this report of abuse with the idiots who booed Harley when he came on v Cardiff, and with the numerous idiots who now litter the 'official match threads' on here, making them unreadable.

But truly, which players are there to seriously moan about? There's no Jason Peake or Danny Webb or Mickey Bennett or Les Briley to go mental at. We expected them to be shit and they met our expectations time and time again. The current lot contain a few who aren't at the same level as most, but I can't bring myself to have a go at them. I cringe a bit when Harley misses a pass, but I so want him to do well because I know there is a hell of footballer in there somewhere. Dicker? our longest serving player after El-Abd, key member of a champion side - no chance. Barnes? - think I was proved right to stick by him. Painter - hard-working, no probs there. None of them worthy of a boo.

maybe I've just gone soft. its just so damn exciting to support us now I don't want to spoil it. I know full well that one day I'll be back on the terraces of Macclesfield watching Ashley Neal's and Jamie Moralee's children disappoint me, the player abuse can wait 'til then.

 

[hitony]

To be fair I call Harley a useless c unt quite a lot. Guess I'm a bad fan...

Can I just point out a certain "C" word is banned on NSC for good reason, if people wish to navigate around this by ways of spaces and * and the like, infractions WILL be issued! You have been warned!

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I'd ask you to refer me to where I suggested the term 'Wendy Wilkins' was on par with the word ****? I'd also ask you to refer me to where I suggested it was funny?

1) No they don't, what's your point? I have never suggested that everyone does it, that's not my argument at all.
2) As above
3) Errrr give me one reasonable scenario

The point I have made over and over is that it HAPPENS. Not just at BHAFC but at every single football club. The other point I have made is that players are professional and therefore ACCEPT and get on with it, despite hearing abuse at (I would argue) every single game they plan in. This leads me to question that, if it doesn't bother them (as we've had no press conferences/tweets/etc saying that a player wants the "abuse" to stop) then why should it bother you? It happens. End of.

My apologies, I've got you mixed up with Working Class Pride.

I take the point that it happens - of course it does, but it doesn't make it right. I just don't see the need for such venom, especially to our own players. I'm not saying ban all bad language at football, as you rightly point out, it is part of the game. But there is a time and a place for it, and the scenario described by the OP was, in my opinion, not one, which was his whole point...

Just think about it: Football player makes a mistake (maybe even a small one), gets called one of the most offensive names under the sun. Warranted? I think not.

Players would expect a collective groan from the crowd if they missed a sitter, much like they would expect the adulation of a roar when they score. But do they expect abuse just for making a mistake while doing their job?

You also mention above that players hear the abuse, and yet before you've argued that they don't hear it ("So it doesn't matter, does it?"), so which is it? And I would also ask, if they don't hear it, then what is the point of shouting it?