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From the BBC ....


A group of Villa and Blues fans have got together to put on a punk benefit gig to raise money for a lower division German football team. Confused? Read on to find out about Brownstock and the new music & football fanzine, Brown Sauce.

The Birmingham Boys in Brown are a band of Villa and Blues fans who also support German Regional League team FC St Pauli. Taking their name from the distinctive colours of the Hamburg club, the fans have organised a punk benefit gig to raise money for the financially threatened team.

The event is headlined by punk band Gold Blade and takes place at the Royal George Pub in Digbeth, on 20 November 2004.

But how exactly did the Birmingham Boys in Brown form? James Brennan explains:

"We'd always known about this mysterious bunch of dockers, prostitutes, punks, anarchists and intellectuals who regularly pack a dilapidated ground in Hamburg docks. A couple of our friends went over and an early evening stroll to the Reeperbahn took them past the Millerntor, the home of FC St Pauli. As they were passing they thought they would pop in for a couple of sherberts in the interests of Anglo-German relations.

"They never made their destination that night as they were distracted by the heady brew of a punk jukebox and a warm welcome from a bunch of supporters who shared their view of fan culture and the modern game. To this day, there is the corner of a Hamburg bar that will forever be Brummie."

When those two fans came back to Birmingham, evangelical to the cause, more fans joined them on the next trip, leading to a fully fledged supporters club to be formed.

"We kind of evolved across the course of several trips to Hamburg. A couple of seasons ago we wanted to secure tickets for the massive derby between St Pauli and SV Hamburg. To make sure we got them, we convinced the club that
we were an official supporters' club in England. It grew from there."

As the word spread, more and more Villa and Blues fans joined the Birmingham Boys in Brown.

"It's roughly 50/50 Villa/Blues, so there's always plenty of lively debate on the plane. A Newcastle and a Reading fan have also hitched a ride, albeit a rough one."

FC St Pauli are certainly a unique club with a distinctive character and set of fans.

"How many clubs in the world have a transvestite President? Or a team photo with players in handcuffs? St Pauli are unique because they embrace all that is different. They celebrate freedom. And they welcome just about anybody who shares their ethos and who wants to have a good time. Their liberal, anti-establishment stance is appealing because it reflects all that has gone missing from English football.

"A St Pauli match can be like a scene from Mad Max. There are all kinds of oddballs there. But you get a good mix of people from all walks of life. At one match we spotted a 7-foot skinhead in a Villa away shirt circa 1994. We introduced ourselves and met up for a drink after the game. It's often the little things that make the difference. Like 20,000 people rattling their keys every time there is a corner. Why? Apparently 'it puts the players off'."

In recent years FC St Pauli have found themselves in financial trouble. successive relegations from the top division to the regional leagues have left them on the brink of bankruptcy.

Various schemes have been used to raise money for the club, such as a 'Drink for St Pauli' campaign on the Reeperbahn and a huge fundraising gig headlined by Norwegian band Turbonegro in the stadium.

The Birmingham Boys in Brown approached Gold Blade and asked them if they wanted to play a gig. Gold Blade Frontman John Robb was only too happy to get involved.

"St Pauli are a legend. They are run by anarchists. Their logo is a skull and crossbones and they play in the red light area of Hamburg which is full of squats, brilliant bars a 24/7 nightlife. Unlike the UK, the bars play all kinds of music from punk rock to jazz northern soul and its a great example of what a great weekend out is really about. Its sleazy, edgy and the team sort of sums this up.

"They used to be in the Bundesliga (top division) but are now in division 3 and really struggling so we are proud to play a benefit and raise a lot of money for them."

Although the Blues, Villa and St Pauli fans have a lot in common in terms of their support for their respective clubs, there are still many cultural differences between the two sets of fans as James tells us.

"The only German most of us know has been picked up from various special interest videos and magazines. Luckily, the majority of our German cousins know good English, which presumably they picked up from the Archers on Radio 4.


"One time, we encountered a rather bizarre scene in a bar just off the Reeperbahn. As the bar got busier and busier, one of the locals advised us that we might like to move on because they were about to play German music for the rest of the night. Intrigued, we stayed, and it was fantastic. It's the first time any of us had ever heard an 'oom-pah' version of the disco classic 'I Will Survive'."

As well as organising the benefit concert, the Birmingham Boys in Brown have also produced a fanzine called 'Brown Sauce'.

"Initially, we wanted to produce something we could take away with us to St Pauli matches - something we could all contribute to and enjoy on the journey, but also something we could give to other St Pauli fans in Germany.

"We came up with the name 'Brown Sauce' because St Pauli play in brown and the fanzine will hopefully be a bit, erm, saucy. Of course, the Birmingham connection is very strongly reflected in the title, with its reference to B6's third most famous export (after Aston Villa and Black Sabbath) - HP Sauce.

"The 'zine is dedicated to St Pauli, Hamburg, Villa, Blues, terrace culture, music and generally having a laugh. Like St Pauli - anything goes."

Brownstock takes place at the Royal George in Digbeth, Birmingham, on 20th November 2004. Doors open at around 7pm and entry is £6 on the door.

Bands playing are Gold Blade, Eastfield, The Blunts and The People's Republic of Mercia. Everyone there will receive a free copy of Brown Sauce fanzine.

For more information or to book tickets email brownstock04@hotmail.com.

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Attila (if you read this): Did you know about this? I see our old mates Eastfield are involved.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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Oooh, its all "Ex-Shelton" this and "Ex- Shelton" that today. Why not just turn the WHOLE first page into a "FAO Ex Shelton Seagull" then, eh ? EH ?

:flounce:
 


Ex Shelton Seagull

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Jul 7, 2003
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Well I deserve a little moment in the spotlight after many years on the board. I think it's a reward for writing some really long posts yesterday with fancy words and everything.

On to St Pauli, as well as the Birmingham group there's also a Portsmouth lot. Last two weeks have been spent translating Babelfish "translations" of the Hamburg Morgen Post in a bid to discover what's happening with the latest financial crisis. The club "forgot" to pay tax on season ticket sales for a few months and as a result were stung by a large bill for 1 million euros. The tax people appear to have relented and agreed to a series of spread out payments.

If the Albion suffered from half of the incompetence of the various boards of St Pauli, people on here would be going crazy. Stuff like failing to add up the sums when building a new training ground and thus being nearly 2 million pounds in debt. Buying a team coach for a large amount of cash and then spraypainting it to make it look like a wreck. Buying a Brazilian defender(!) for half a million, aiming to sell him for a million and eventually letting him go for free to Frankfurt.

I'm going to go over to Berlin in June for the last game of the season, maybe a chance of promotion? :triestosupresslaugh:
Hope it's better than the game I saw in August against HSV amateurs. Conceded a goal after 35 seconds and lost 1-0. Well worth the price of the Ryanair flight.
 


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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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Ex Shelton Seagull said:
Well I deserve a little moment in the spotlight after many years on the board. I think it's a reward for writing some really long posts yesterday with fancy words and everything.
Fairy nuff.

I must admit, I am slightly envious of your grammar.
 


attila

1997 Club
Jul 17, 2003
2,279
South Central Southwick
Too right Shelton.

Had an email from Sven Brux (St Pauli legend, now works full time for the club) today. They are going to be allowed to pay the debts over a longish period: it's a bloody disgrace they are in that situation with 14000 at every home game....Although the fan culture is brilliant, they are appallingly badly run in financial terms: all their best young players left for nothing because they were on such short term contracts (Ivan Klasnic, top scorer now for champions Werder Bremen, grew up at Pauli, left for nothing..loads more) The fans are all too pissed and busy going to gigs and chasing fascists to worry about the financial mismanagment - and the new chairman is useless. And half the players don't try.

In a nutshell: a great place to go for a laugh if you are a football fan who likes beer, punk rock and hates nazis. But they could learn loads from us about looking after their club's interests (you can't drink or pogo to a balance sheet!) and getting players who aren't lazy wasters. They don't care though: if their team loses they just sing 'Scheissegal' (we don't care)!
I'll be there 17-19 June for the 15th anniversary of the fan shop.
But in football terms, I'm glad I'm an Albion fan!!!
And yes I knew about the gig, they asked me to play, I had another one that night.
 


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