FA cup allocation

[pseudonym]

was just reading about man utd complaining (nothing new) about the allocation they have been given for the tie against city, 5,500.
under FA rules it states that the home team has to offer the equivalent to 15% of the ground capacity,that would make 3350 so if we drew a team that bring a large following how would we accommodate them all or would we do what city have done and not follow the rules.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

was just reading about man utd complaining (nothing new) about the allocation they have been given for the tie against city, 5,500.
under FA rules it states that the home team has to offer the equivalent to 15% of the ground capacity,that would make 3350 so if we drew a team that bring a large following how would we accommodate them all or would we do what city have done and not follow the rules.

They get the first (South) block of the East Stand.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

was just reading about man utd complaining (nothing new) about the allocation they have been given for the tie against city, 5,500.
under FA rules it states that the home team has to offer the equivalent to 15% of the ground capacity,that would make 3350 so if we drew a team that bring a large following how would we accommodate them all or would we do what city have done and not follow the rules.

I read today that United get a special dispensation from this ruling as they have the biggest ground in the country. Cnuts.

 

[Notters]

I read today that United get a special dispensation from this ruling as they have the biggest ground in the country. Cnuts.

As I understand it it's just 15% up to 3,000, or somesuch.

 

[Sompting_Seagull]

When are the 4th round dates scheduled to take place?

 

[Storer 68]

Fa rules are 15% of capacity for the visitors for FA cup ties.

 

[xenophon]

4th Round:

Wrexham v Man City

 

[amexee]

As I understand it it's just 15% up to 3,000, or somesuch.

I believe the league rules are 10% or 3000

The fa cup is 15%

The east stand concourse has been built with a shutter so the end by the south can be segregated for cup ties

 

[JJB]

The FA Cup increases round by round. I know when we got to the final in '03, Wolves had pretty much the whole of the Northam.

 

[Superphil]

I'm confused, CoM stadium capacity, 47805. 15% = 7170. so it's fair enough really for them to complain.

From the FA Rules:

All Rounds Preceding the Semi-Finals

In all matches preceding the Semi-Finals, the Visiting Club shall have the right to claim up to 15% of all accommodation for which tickets are issued providing these tickets are in a fully segregated area, and subject to the following regulations:

i.The request for tickets shall be made within two days of the draw.

 

[pseudonym]

I'm confused, CoM stadium capacity, 47805. 15% = 7170. so it's fair enough really for them to complain.

MAN UNITED COMPLAIN OVER CUP TICKETS | Sporting Life - Sports News | Live Football Scores, Live Racing Results, Football Transfer News

 

[Notters]

Here are the OFFICIAL rules:

21. DISTRIBUTION OF TICKETS
(a) All Rounds Preceding the Semi-Finals
In all matches preceding the Semi-Finals, the Visiting Club shall have the right to claim up
to 15% of all accommodation for which tickets are issued providing these tickets are in a
fully segregated area, and subject to the following regulations:
(i) The request for tickets shall be made within two days of the draw.
(ii) The tickets allotted to the Visiting Club, if numbered and reserved, must be of equal
value to those retained by the Home Club.
(iii) In cases of replays, the Club playing away in the replay must make a request for
tickets prior to the original match in order to ensure that the replay tickets are in the
possession of the club playing away in the replay at the latest immediately on
conclusion of the original match.
(iv) The Visiting Club shall be responsible for the payment of all tickets asked for and
allotted, unless otherwise agreed between the Clubs in writing with a copy sent to The
Association. All questions in dispute shall immediately be referred to The Association.
(v) The Visiting Club should settle with the Home Club for sales of tickets on or before
the day of the match.
(vi) Any tickets not sold by the Visiting Club should be returned to the Home Club with
their statement of tickets sales.
(vii) In the Competition Proper, a Visiting Club shall be entitled to one third of the seats
usually reserved and known as “Home and Visiting Directors’ Seats” up to a
maximum of 24 seats.
(viii) Where disabled facilities are provided, a Visiting Club shall have the right to claim up
to 15% of this accommodation.
(ix) Where it is deemed desirable, the Professional Game Board shall have the right to
vary the allocation of tickets to the Visiting Club, or require a match to be made all
ticket.

http://www.thefa.com/~/media/776FDC2C663A48568FC3688FA667463A.ashx/01%20FAC%20rules%202009-2010%20_blue_.pdf

iii seems weird!

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The FA Cup increases round by round. I know when we got to the final in '03, Wolves had pretty much the whole of the Northam.

Er, no it doesn't. What a crock of shit. The rules are the same for every round (except those ties held on neutral grounds).

I imagine you just gave Wolves extra as you couldn't be arsed with it. Much like your team in the final, if I recall correctly.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Fa rules are 15% of capacity for the visitors for FA cup ties.

..excluding Man U:

United are not bound to give visiting clubs the usual 15% allocation because they are given special dispensation from the FA on the basis that Old Trafford is the largest ground in the country. Instead, they routinely give away fans 8,500 tickets for cup ties,

 

[Superphil]

So, United have a special dispensation to only offer 11% of their ground for FA Cup games, City don't. Are we seeing City turning into the new United then, refusing to follow the rules of the FA when it suits them? The FA is gutless, spinelss and powerless if it can't enforce this simple and long standing rule. The Premier League teams are getting to the point where they are running, and ruining, the beautiful game in this country, what is the point of the FA anymore?

 

[The Large One]

..excluding Man U:

United are not bound to give visiting clubs the usual 15% allocation because they are given special dispensation from the FA on the basis that Old Trafford is the largest ground in the country. Instead, they routinely give away fans 8,500 tickets for cup ties,

So Arsenal are obliged to offer 9,054 tickets, but Manchester United can offer fewer?

Sake.

 

[Notters]

So Arsenal are obliged to offer 9,054 tickets, but Manchester United can offer fewer?

Sake.

Not necessarily, as it's subject to segregation.

 

[Nathan]

So if another team has a new stadium with a capacity of more than Man u, will they be allowed to offer less than 15% as they will be the biggest. And therefore man u will have to offer 15%? Or do you think the FA will crumble again, and let the two big teams do what they want.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So, United have a special dispensation to only offer 11% of their ground for FA Cup games, City don't. Are we seeing City turning into the new United then, refusing to follow the rules of the FA when it suits them? The FA is gutless, spinelss and powerless if it can't enforce this simple and long standing rule. The Premier League teams are getting to the point where they are running, and ruining, the beautiful game in this country, what is the point of the FA anymore?

Manchester United refer City to the FA in dispute over Cup tickets | Football | The Guardian

I think it's a tit-for-tat measure.

But, I also understand the 15% is easily circumvented on the grounds of safety. Most clubs have an all-too cosey relationship with the board which decides these things. In fact didnt we under-supply FC United of Manchester on some bizarre safety reason? I seem to recall the reasoning we gave seemed to contradict other higher profile and category games.

 

[Kittyhawk]

They get the first (South) block of the East Stand.

We are near the end of the second block and have already been advised (After purchasing) that our season ticket seats may not be available for cup games. (To be used as a buffer I presume)