European Elections - How the SOUTH EAST voted

[34064 Fighter Command]

UKIP aren't racist, they just want to f*** up what previous generations have taken decades to achieve.

That's what p***** me off !

 

[fatbadger]

Just to get your sums right:

UKIP + BNP + Conservative + New Labour.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Percentage share of the vote in England and Wales (and change from 1999)

Conservative 27.4 -10.1 25 seats
Labour 22.3 -5.7 17 seats
UK Independence Party 16.8 +9.3 12 seats
Liberal Democrat 15.1 +2.1 11 seats
Green 6.2 -0.1 2 seats
British National Party 5.2 +4.1 0 seats
Respect - The Unity Coalition 1.7 +1.7 0 seats
Plaid Cymru 1.1 -1 1 seat


In other words ... the Tories, UKIP, Liberal Democrats and Greens do better in the south east than elsewhere; Labour, the BNP and Respect do worse here than elsewhere.

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

I wouldn't class New Labour as right wing.

I mean, if they were right wing they would have cuddled up to Saddam years ago.

More v.v.v.v.v. ever so slightly left of centre ( but don't tell anyone, you didn't see us OK ? )

 

[fatbadger]

I wouldn't class New Labour as right wing.

privatisation, war-mongering, anti-immigration policies, increasing surveillance, ID cards ... what more do you want?

 

[SM BHAFC]

New Labour are hardly left wing are they as fatbadger has pointed out, Blair realised that old Socialist Labour would never get into power in this country, people like Ken Livingstone, Tony Benn, and the alleged traitor Galloway made sure of that so he took them to the right and usurped the Tories a classic move no doubt, I reckon they are just right of centre.

 

[sullyupthewing]

UKIP + BNP + Conservative a definate shift to the right in the country, it's a good day to be a jack booted fascist

I am just going to give my jackboots a good shine and then goosestep my way through Worthing, then after lunch invade Poland and be home in time for tea.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Percentage share of the vote in England and Wales ...

Conservative 27.4

The worst Conservative performance in an election since 1832 !

 

[sullyupthewing]

sully, you never EVER, enter into reasonable debate on your opinions.

what are you on about? where's the whinging on this thread? I bet you didn't even read half of it did you?

No I did not cos I am to busy reading Mien Kampf

 

[Simster]

New Labour are hardly left wing are they as fatbadger has pointed out, Blair realised that old Socialist Labour would never get into power in this country, people like Ken Livingstone, Tony Benn, abd the alleged traitor Galloway made sure of that so he took them to the right and usurped the Tories a classic move no doubt, I reckon they are just right of centre.

f*** knows what they are. I think you're right at a government level but you'll find all manner of looney left wingers as well as fairly central politicians at council level.
Sadly, Bliar has sold them out with his policies on the Iraq war, university funding, schooling policies and it's the local candidates who end up paying for his hoodwinking with their own jobs. I can't vote Labour anymore because I don't really know what I'm voting for, and the fact that the leader is a war criminal in my eyes.

Hopefully, the LibDems will take the centre ground in British politics and will be given a chance at national level at some point in my lifetime. The Tories are still unelectable and Labour are a ragtag motley of spin, bullshit, and with no real identity any more.

 

[Curious Orange]

I don't think the voting statistics are necessarily a reflection of how people will vote in an election that is actually important. The European elections were a good opportunity for people to register their disapproval of the main parties apparent lack of interest in the concerns of the ordinary man; and show them that they're annoyed about Iraq and the relentless march towards a single European state. Hopefully the parties will take note and concentrate on the important issues now. If they do then normal voting patterns should be resumed come the general election.

 

[Simster]

The worst Conservative performance in an election since 1832 !

Which is still 6% higher than Labour's feeble showing. And lets not forget, the media haven't yet fallen completely out of love with "New" Labour. Wait until that happens! The Tories lost votes to the UKIP because they're still sitting on the fence, waiting for it to go tits up for Labour instead of nailing their true colours to the wall. Labour lost votes because they've lost the confidence of the electorate for a variety of reasons.

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

New Labour are hardly left wing are they as fatbadger has pointed out, Blair realised that old Socialist Labour would never get into power in this country, people like Ken Livingstone, Tony Benn, and the alleged traitor Galloway made sure of that so he took them to the right and usurped the Tories a classic move no doubt, I reckon they are just right of centre.

But Livingstone and Benn have both held high office ( Mayor of London & Cabinet Minister respectively ).

AND George Galloway was, in opposing the invasion of Iraq, merely saying what everyone else in this country now knows to be true.

No I still say, compared to Heath, Thatcher and Major, that Labour ARE left wing, just not as left wing as they used to be.

 

[Curious Orange]

The worst Conservative performance in an election since 1832 !

Not if you include the New Conserv..., er Labour votes!!

 

[Curious Orange]

But Livingstone and Benn have both held high office ( Mayor of London & Cabinet Minister respectively ).

AND George Galloway was, in opposing the invasion of Iraq, merely saying what everyone else in this country now knows to be true.

No I still say, compared to Heath, Thatcher and Major, that Labour ARE left wing, just not as left wing as they used to be.

Tony Benn and Ken Livingstone are old-school Labour, and old-school politicians. I think people would have more respect for politics if there were more of their ilk around. You may not agree with what they say, but at least they say what they believe and have the courage not to tow the party line if they think it's wrong - that is true democracy in action, sensible debate as opposed to consensus by leadership dictate.

 

[fatbadger]

the Tories, UKIP, Liberal Democrats and Greens do better in the south east than elsewhere; Labour, the BNP and Respect do worse here than elsewhere.

In Scotland, the Conservatives got 17.8% (England and Wales = 27.4%), UKIP 6.7% (E&W = 16.8%) and BNP 1.7% (E&W = 5.2%).

No prizes for guessing why I moved up here.

 

[Mr C]

I reckon Michael Howard has plenty to be happy about. Not only did Labour do badly, but a good percentage of those who voted UKIP will hopefully vote Consevative at the next election, transferring their displeaure of Labour into useful votes.

All on course then for the next General Election when we can at last have a proper government in place again

 

[SM BHAFC]

Curious Orange agree with that about Livingstone and Benn I cannot stand either of them they represent everything I hate, but I respect them for the way they have held their views consistently and the way they communicate their views across to the public. Both good politicians despite both obviously stark raving mad.