EPPP Petition

[mightypalacefan]

hello to forum users

just posting to your forum to try and get some true football supporters backing , if you are against the EPPP click on the link and sign the petition

Elite Player Performance Plan , it has many very good points but also has very bad points which could see smaller clubs going out of business , we are trying to get other supporters to look at this as a football matter , not as it will be ok for us , there is a petition online we would like people to sign , the EPPP tries to make this sound about the future of the English National Team , but we as supporters should be worried about our football right down to grass roots , this is all about the Premier Greed

if we as football supporters can reach 100,000 signatures it will be raised in parliament , this is worth parliament looking at before teams start going under , the EPPP is only guaranteed for 4 years then we suppose it depends how much the 'ELITE TEAMS' have saved themselves during this time

://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/21314 you have to put the http at the beginning of this because of amount of postings needed

can i take this opportunity to wish all brighton fans a MURRAY Christmas and a ZAHA New Year

 

[Doc Lynam]

Dont really understand this new legislation, I thought any prem team to buy young talent anyway!?

Stop the EPPP plan in its current form before it widens the gap between Premier league business toys and real football clubs, and destroys our game. - e-petitions

Ps Merry xmas and many congratulation with the extention of your new shirt sponser Cack, no i mean Gac. Also did AFC Wimbeldon development squad beat you the other day, oh well the future is over rated.

 

[mightypalacefan]

it depends on your academy rating , then how the player does professionally , i can put some links up which may help , they make look biased towards saying no but i cannot find any that support the EPPP , not in a constructive manner

 

[Doc Lynam]

Cant get my head round it tonight im off, on the face of it, it sounds like a poorly thought out piece of legislation by the government.

 

[mightypalacefan]

no this is premier greed , forced through by the threat of witholding monies , er as in u11 girls team on 04/12/2011 ?

 

[Tricky Dicky]

100,000 signatures may mean it gets raised in parliament, but if they're not interested, they won't debate it. The ePetitions are essentially useless.

 

[mightypalacefan]

Tricky dicky if this can get enough support , wether through this epetition or otherwise , so something has to be done about it , isn't it in the interests of FOOTBALL , this isn't about Palace or Brighton at the moment but it could be in the future , the Eppp is only guaranteed for 4 years , then what , after all the cherries have been picked cut the tree down ? , it is all about Premier Greed , how many teams can afford 2.5 million a year to run a grade 1 academy ? , if nothing is done now about the Eppp don't complain when it's too late ! , for the sake of a signature to get this noticed is this not worth doing ?

 

[waddoneagle]

Signed

 

[TerryT]

signed

 

[Drumstick]

Signed. #1,239

 

[Hillian1]

Done

 

[Simster]

Tricky dicky if this can get enough support , wether through this epetition or otherwise , so something has to be done about it , isn't it in the interests of FOOTBALL , this isn't about Palace or Brighton at the moment but it could be in the future , the Eppp is only guaranteed for 4 years , then what , after all the cherries have been picked cut the tree down ? , it is all about Premier Greed , how many teams can afford 2.5 million a year to run a grade 1 academy ? , if nothing is done now about the Eppp don't complain when it's too late ! , for the sake of a signature to get this noticed is this not worth doing ?

The sentiment is worthy enough, but even if there was the appetite for having this debated, they would still want to know why the smaller clubs voted in favour of it in the first place.

 

[Hillian1]

The sentiment is worthy enough, but even if there was the appetite for having this debated, they would still want to know why the smaller clubs voted in favour of it in the first place.

Basically, and what gets a lot of people upset about this, is that the PL and FA threatened to withhold funding if the FL clubs didn't vote it through. Smaller clubs in particular needed the cash, and don't have much of an academy to speak of anyway. As a PL spokesman himself admitted the other day, they threatened this because they thought the FL clubs might need a 'nudge'.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

The sentiment is worthy enough, but even if there was the appetite for having this debated, they would still want to know why the smaller clubs voted in favour of it in the first place.

The smaller clubs had to vote in favour , the alternative was the drip feed funding being taken away. It was the lesser of two evils.

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Signed.

 

[Superphil]

Signed

 

[beorhthelm]

... how many teams can afford 2.5 million a year to run a grade 1 academy ?

with the cost of transfer and signing fees for clubs, how can they afford not to be running decent academies?

The sentiment is worthy enough, but even if there was the appetite for having this debated, they would still want to know why the smaller clubs voted in favour of it in the first place.

my thought too, when it was discussed before it wasnt clear why the clubs overwhelmingly supported the change. there was an implication that current funding would be withdrawn from small clubs if they didnt agree, but its was something like £50k.

 

[serial thriller]

Signed

Of course everyone's likely to be sceptical, questioning why Football League clubs agreed to it in the first place, whether a petition will really make a difference etc. But to my mind, one should only look at it based on the known facts, which are that clubs now have almost no control over prices for their hottest young talent. It will inevitably end up with clubs like Chelsea, Man U etc coming down to lower league academies like Brighton's and Palace's, picking out the top 5 players, signing them all for about 250k and then probably selling them back to lower league clubs for x amount of millions if they don't make it, or getting 1 in about 25 of these players to play for their first team.

What other walk of life are rival companies allowed to come in to smaller ones and hand pick the best men, and buying them off the smaller company for practically tuppence? And even this notion that it will help the England national side is nonsense. As we all know, many of the better England players gained their experience by playing in the lower leagues before making the step up when they were ready (Defoe, Hart, Walcott, Kyle Walker, Carrick to name a few). Trying to draw out comparisions with the system used in Spain are frankly foreboding for our lower leagues. In Spain, outside of the top league the average attendances barely reach over 5000 and B teams like Barcelona's are in the second league. Yes they have a good national side, but their whole footballing system has payed a massive, massive penalty for it.

Finally, we all know that what makes our clubs is the communal atmosphere around them. Brighton in their time have produced some great youth players, as have many clus in the lower leagues, and its these players who help endeer the fans to the clubs. The EPPP makes an academy virtually redundant, with clubs putting in hard graft with young players for the bigger club's benefit, and this will kill a really important part of lower league football. I really hope it doesn't slip under the radar and I seriously belive that it is only the fans now who have the will power to make a stand.

 

[Pbseagull]

Signed