[Football] England vs Senegal

[Cordwainer]

Definitely the logical objective thing to do.

But, it sticks in my throat we had a plan with Southgate, promoting from within the England setup, and whatever we say about Southgate, and I for one hated his cautious approach, he got us within touching distance of winning.

All that planning and succession appears to have gone out of the window again though and we’ve just gone with a name who has won a couple of things on a short term contract with no real investment in what the job is other than it being a big job to him.

Long term success surely results from careful investment and planning at all levels of the England set up..it’s how France and Spain have achieved sustained results. Am assuming that was the FA’s plan until Carsley went off plan experimental with no striker gate. Look at how Wales have been playing under Bellamy..I’d much rather a couple of seasons of that with loses, but building a strong identity and playing style, rather than TT efforts to date. Let’s hope he’s still weeding out the chaff and it all comes good in 12 months time..

 

[Randy McNob]

Long term success surely results from careful investment and planning at all levels of the England set up..it’s how France and Spain have achieved sustained results. Am assuming that was the FA’s plan until Carsley went off plan experimental with no striker gate. Look at how Wales have been playing under Bellamy..I’d much rather a couple of seasons of that with loses, but building a strong identity and playing style, rather than TT efforts to date. Let’s hope he’s still weeding out the chaff and it all comes good in 12 months time..

Exactly, that's why the appointment of Tuchel is completely bizarre.

They didn't even speak to Howe

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

On a positive note the Senegal left back could do a job if Pervis is off.

 

[Del Fenner]

And that's what you get when you play Palace players.

Indeed! Man of the Match!

 

[Weststander]

For my sins I just watched the second half, catching up via a recording. Blimey, the following were sh1t in their defensive duties, adding to Burn who was poor against Andorra.
Skelly
Henderson the keeper
Walker (his last cap?)
Colwill .. lazy fecker
Chalobah

 

[Happy Exile]

A lot of Southgate’s relative success came because he intentionally didn’t do the “normal” things and England manager does because that’s so limiting. I think the Tuchel appointment is perhaps an intended continuation of that thinking and that it’ll maybe settle down and be rewarded. One of Southgate’s main advisory groups didn’t include anyone considered a “football man” or with the established England pedigree:

Manage Bidali - tech start-up founder
Lucy Giles - a Sandhurst military trainer
Matthew Syed - journalist and expert on mindset, former table tennis player
Baroness Sue Campbell - expert on Olympic sport
David Brailsford - legend from cycling
Sir Michael Barber - worked in education under Tony Blair

Southgate’s skill was in many ways recognising the value of that and taking their advice and applying it to football. I don’t know much about Tuchel’s setup but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a similar approach.