England manager's salary

[Gwylan]

I'm not calling for Capello to be sacked - it would be too expensive to get rid of him but I do think we should look at the salaries we pay coaches.

Here's a list of WC coaches' salaries (well, the top 20) and, as can be seen, there's no correlation between earnings and success; just three of the top 10 have got their teams to the quarter finals. The discrepancy is astonishing: I'm willing to bet there's no league in the world where the top paid manager gets more than 15 times the basic salary of the lowest-paid.

- Fabio Capello (England): 9,900,000 USD/year
- Marcelo Lippi (Italy): 4,100,000
- Javier Aguirre (Mexico): 4,000,000
- Joachim Löw (Germany): 3,300,000
- Berter van Marwijk (Netherlands): 2,700,000
- Ottmar Hitzfeld (Switzerland): 2,600,000
- Vicente del Bosque (Spain): 2,200,000
- Carlos Queiroz (Portugal): 2,000,000
- Pim Verbeek (Australia): 1,820,000
- Carlos Parreira (South Africa): 1,800,000
- Dunga (Brazil): 1,250,000
- Diego Maradona (Argentina): 1,200,000
- Takeshi Okada (Japan): 1,200,000
- Ricki Herbert (New Zealand): 1,200,000
- Otto Rehhagel (Greece): 1,150,000
- Paul Le Guen (Cameroon): 960,000
- Marcelo Bielsa (Chile): 850,000
- Vahdi Halilhodzic (Cote d’Ivoire): 740,000
- Raymond Domenech (France): 720,000
- Hun Jung Moo (South Korea): 600,000

I think that the FA should take a firm stand on the next coach. IMO what they should do is look at the salary of the coach one or two places above England in the FIFA rankings and offer that. For example, if England fell four places after the WC, being just behind the US, say, then he'd get the same salary as Bob Bradley (currently $400,000). That way the FA could say that they're paying above the market rate

Of course, we're not going to attract big name coaches looking for a big payout but we'll be able to see if the likes of Harry "I'm English and I'd jump at the chance of managing the national side" Redknapp are serious or not.

 

[Titanic]

While $9.9m is completely ridiculous as a football managers salary... that league table doesn't tell the whole story though... what are the salaries of the leading European club managers that the FA are competing with for his 'talents'?

 

[Gwylan]

While $9.9m is completely ridiculous as a football managers salary... that league table doesn't tell the whole story though... what are the salaries of the leading European club managers that the FA are competing with for his 'talents'?

You could say the same about other European managers though. I see that France played Domenech just over $700k. You could say that's too much for what he did, but I bet Blanc won't be on much more.

One thing that has been said over and over in the last few weeks is that while Capello had a good record as a club manager, being an international coach requires a different skill-set. If that's true (and I think there's some truth in it, although not the whole story) then it's completely irrelevant what club managers are being paid.

 

[Austrian Gull]

The fact that Capello is on more than twice the slary of any other manager is obscene and shows the incompetence of the FA.

The US coach has done a great job at 1/20th of the wage.

I wonder how much Sven picked up for turning Ivory Coast into a negative, mediocre side?

 

[adrian29uk]

Bloody hell that's double what Marcelo Lippi got, but at least he won the world cup. Its not Fabio Capello's fault they offer this sort of money.

Got to say this, England have become the laughing stock of this tournament, this is all due to constant media attention, the bigging up of the premiership being the best league in the world, and the bigging up of the England players.

Why is it a majority of Argentinian and Brazilians decide to play their football in Spain and Italy, is it because they don't rate the premiership or is it the climate, culture that they prefer.

 

[Notters]

Presumably this doesn't include win bonuses.

 

[seagullsoverlincoln]

Bloody ridiculous! As with a lot of issues, the incompetance of the FA is too blame in
England's case.

I wonder how much Erikson's getting at Cote D'ivoire compared with the guy on the list

 

[Gwylan]

Presumably this doesn't include win bonuses.

No, this is just salaries. For completeness sake, I should add the remaining 12.
And yes, I should have said this was drawn up at the beginning of the year so SGE isn't on it.

Best value must be the Uruguay coach: quarter-final place on a thirtieth of Capello's salary.

- Morten Olsen (Denmark): 570,000
- Milovan Rajevac (Ghana): 540,000
- Bob Bradley (USA): 400,000
- Radomir Antic (Serbia): 447,000
- Matjaz Kek (Slovenia): 360,000
- Gerardo Martino (Paraguay): 360,000
- Rabah Saadane (Algeria): 360,000
- Reinaldo Rueda (Honduras): 350,000
- Vladimir Weiss (Slovakia): 312,000
- Oscar Washington Tabárez (Uruguay): 300,000
- Kim Jong Hun (North Korea): 250,000
- Shaibu Amodu (Nigeria): 180,000

 

[jimhigham]

Surely it's not that hard to rig up a phased performance related bonus? Put the manager on a basic flat fee of about, say, £2 million and then a bonus arranged by prior agreement.

The accepted wisdom before the World Cup was that we generally expected to reach the quarter final stage. Therefore this should have been part of the flat fee. A bonus could then have been paid for each round beyond that that the team progressed. If the manager got a million for every round above the agreed base level they could end up netting a maximum of £5 million for a World Cup win.

It would need to be reconfigured for the different format of a European Championship, always assuming we reached them.

Thoughts?

 

[Robdinho]

Can I ask where these figures have come from? It's just that on 5live the other day they said the New Zealand coach was on £25k a year, whereas you have him down as $1.2 million. That's quite a large discrepancy, and I find it difficult to believe the NZ FA have that kind of money when they don't even have a professional league.

 

[adrian29uk]

Again it all ends up with EGG ON FACE, for England and english football.

 

[El Presidente]

The WC has shown England and the Premiershite to the Emperor's New Clothes of football.

Perhaps there are three levels of management

Cub
International
Tournament

Capello has proven himself at the first two with his club record and the ease with which we qualified, but lacked the skills for the third. Being cooped up for six weeks with a bunch of blokes needs a bit more of the human touch than he has IMO.

He also disobeyed some of his own rules when choosing the squad and team

1: Don't pick injured players (King, Barry)
2: Don't pick out of form players (Rooney, Carrick, Gerrard)
3: Don't pick players who are not getting first team action for their clubs (Heskey, Wright-Phillips)

The players don't help themselves, look at the last three England captains, Gerrard (beats up punter in nightclub), Rio (Misses drug test and serial shagger), Terry (Bridge incident and showing people round Wembley for cash). Of top of that we have the likes of Cashley.

 

[Gwylan]

Can I ask where these figures have come from? It's just that on 5live the other day they said the New Zealand coach was on £25k a year, whereas you have him down as $1.2 million. That's quite a large discrepancy, and I find it difficult to believe the NZ FA have that kind of money when they don't even have a professional league.

The figures come from two sources Ole, an Argentinian sports paper and Futbalfinance.com - I used the dollar rather than the Euro table but if you want to see the latter, it's here (courtesy of a Dutch site). I must say that NZ raised my eyebrows too - perhaps they wanted to compete with the Aussies.

EDIT: Just had a thought I wonder if that's his salary in NZ dollars - that would still make his salary US$840,000 though

2010 World Cup: Salaries of 32 coaches released | Radio Netherlands Worldwide

 

[Gwylan]

Capello ... disobeyed some of his own rules when choosing the squad and team

1: Don't pick injured players (King, Barry)
2: Don't pick out of form players (Rooney, Carrick, Gerrard)
3: Don't pick players who are not getting first team action for their clubs (Heskey, Wright-Phillips)

I was thinking about that the other day. He was quite clear about that from the start and reiterated it several times but he went spectacularly back on his word. The question is why? Did he realise that he'd be slaughtered by the media if he left the likes of Rooney out? Or was it that he just staggered by the paucity of any replacements?