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Lady Whistledown

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The bigger disgrace is going along with the corruption. Sucking up to the Jack Warners of this world. He will be laughing his socks off now.

That's it isn't it? Because we wanted it so much, we were prepared to shamelessly kiss the arses of the likes of him when we should have just said to FIFA, no, this is wrong, we're not going to get involved until you straighten your affairs.
 


Tyrone Biggums

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And they just gave a f***ing world cup to this nation?
 


BRIGHT ON Q

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Jul 5, 2003
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Oh well,we got the Olympics.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
Russia will put on a decent WC, I have no doubt, and I'm sure they had a very strong bid. It's actually the Qatar decision that stinks more to me. They've never, ever qualified, they have no chance of qualifying on merit any time soon, they have no footballing history at all, just a lot of money and a bunch of rich Arabs with Dubai-style plans for castles in the sky.
Totally agree with all of this. Russia's tournament will be OK, although I can't imagine a large number of travelling fans really. Qatar will be a joke. Their own team has never qualified and will be humiliated in the group stage, making a mockery of their presence in the tournament.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Total rip off, two fan unfriendly destinations with no deep football history but absolutely bucket-loads of spare cash swilling about, why are we even surprised.

In fairness, Russia has had decent players (Yashin, Blokhin, Belanov spring to mind) and teams both domestic and international. Qatar is a total joke though. Will they buy in players like they do with their athletics teams?
 


Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
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Clearly tactical voting by those supporting Russia and Spain/Portugal to get rid of England in the first round. Will be interesting to see the vote breakdowns.

Will place money that they are never officially released
 




Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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Totally agree with all of this. Russia's tournament will be OK, although I can't imagine a large number of travelling fans really. Qatar will be a joke. Their own team has never qualified and will be humiliated in the group stage, making a mockery of their presence in the tournament.

The fact that Russia has not had it before is OK that they get this one, but Moscow was hardly fan friendly when England played there (the police had a tank outside the main hotel fans were staying in). The size of the place will make it a difficult tournament though.
 


Dick Knights Mumm

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Jul 5, 2003
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That's it isn't it? Because we wanted it so much, we were prepared to shamelessly kiss the arses of the likes of him when we should have just said to FIFA, no, this is wrong, we're not going to get involved until you straighten your affairs.

I am looking forward to seeing a list of what we did to get the T&T votes. And if we went out first round - we did not get it.
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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Rubbish. Everything the programme raised about had already gone on, and it would still have been shameful whether they gave England the World Cup or not.

You can't ignore corruption only when it has a negative impact on you, it needs to be dealt with regardless, and personally I think it would have been virtually condoning it if the BBC had kept quiet purely so as not to offend those who made the decisions at FIFA.

Russia will put on a decent WC, I have no doubt, and I'm sure they had a very strong bid. It's actually the Qatar decision that stinks more to me. They've never, ever qualified, they have no chance of qualifying on merit any time soon, they have no footballing history at all, just a lot of money and a bunch of rich Arabs with Dubai-style plans for castles in the sky.

sorry I'm just fuming but i will argue a case. I didn't even watch panorama as it would have angered me - both that the beeb were showing it before the vote and that Fifa are so corrupt. Yes I believe it was past stuff but you really think the past stuff wouldn't have affected those accused or friends of those accused in this vote? Course it would. I'm not for one second defending the corrupt bastards but surely waiting another week till AFTER the vote would have been SIMPLY the right decision. How long do you think Panorama etc have known about this etc - f***ing YEARS - 1 week makes no difference. So do you think it's almost condoning it that these people from panorama didn't release a statement about their corrupt findings straight away (prob years ago) and carried on getting more evidence and more storys then took a few months putting the whole programme together etc etc?! Yet you moan about ONE WEEK?! Think about it...

As for the Daily f***ing Mail etc etc - completely went against our bid - f***ing disgrace.
 






Lady Whistledown

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I've been to Qatar. Well, I mean I've twice sat at the airport for hours, waiting for an onward flight. Nice shiny airport, lots of Ferraris and overpriced Duty Free. Very male dominated society. Not a place I'd be overwhelmed to play or watch football in, air conditioned or not.
 


BRIGHT ON Q

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Jul 5, 2003
9,139
I am 40,was not born last time we held it,i will probably never witness a world cup in my lifetime.What a joke.
 




The Fifth Column

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Nov 30, 2010
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Hangleton
England bid ambassador and BBC presenter Gary Lineker has confirmed that England were knocked out in the first round of voting. They came fourth out of four. I'm stunned

How shockingly corrupt is that?
 






1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
15,185
Will place money that they are never officially released

Yes they will. FIFA announced just prior to the bid decision that they will now publish the breakdowns as per usual - having previously said that they wouldn't publish this time around.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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sorry I'm just fuming but i will argue a case. I didn't even watch panorama as it would have angered me - both that the beeb were showing it before the vote and that Fifa are so corrupt. Yes I believe it was past stuff but you really think the past stuff wouldn't have affected those accused or friends of those accused in this vote? Course it would. I'm not for one second defending the corrupt bastards but surely waiting another week till AFTER the vote would have been SIMPLY the right decision. How long do you think Panorama etc have known about this etc - f***ing YEARS - 1 week makes no difference. So do you think it's almost condoning it that these people from panorama didn't release a statement about their corrupt findings straight away (prob years ago) and carried on getting more evidence and more storys then took a few months putting the whole programme together etc etc?! Yet you moan about ONE WEEK?! Think about it...

As for the Daily f***ing Mail etc etc - completely went against our bid - f***ing disgrace.

Rubbish, the decison about the bid was made months ago, It made no difference to the bid. The Russians knew they had it wrapped up long before today, thus Putin didnt go.
 


Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
6,846
Burgess Hill
Sorry but I did warn that Russia would win, just had a feeling in my water :)
 


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