Hatterlovesbrighton
something clever
Anyone think that he might play Gerrard Lampard and Hargreaves. Pushing gerrard right up to partner Own and letting Lampard to burst from midfield?
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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the second alternative, Barry, done quite well. the obvious first choice alternative is Hargreaves anyway.
No, the alternative is Hargreaves.
GermanShepherd
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This from the Telegraph
Clearest picture of England found on radio
By Jim White
When news filtered through to the BBC's Wembley commentary box on Wednesday night of Northern Ireland's victory over Liechtenstein, including as it did the inevitable brace from David Healy, John Motson was moved to say: "David Healy, well, ho ho, he's the Michael Owen of Northern Ireland isn't he?"
Not really John: Healy actually scores international goals.
It is an extraordinary thing watching the BBC's television coverage of England matches, for the degree to which all of their presenters, analysts and commentators still buy into the idea that this England team is a world leader, against which all others should be measured. Right now, the impoverished Steve McClaren would bite off someone's hand for an English David Healy, someone who after rounding the goalkeeper managed to put the ball into, rather than on top of, the net. Yet, according to Motty, the Downpatrick goal machine is simply an ersatz version of the real thing in white.It was non-stop, this misplaced assumption of where the England team stand. Gary Lineker told us that Frank Lampard, someone for whom the term "not bad on his day" was surely minted, is a "great player". Quite how he did so without cracking up is a testament to his broadcasting professionalism.
Alongside him, Ian Wright made an even bolder assault on the maintenance of a straight face by telling us that Paul Robinson is "a great keeper" who is just temporarily shorn of a bit of confidence and will undoubtedly come good in the end. It would take a hard heart not to hope the latter part of that statement is right. But a "great keeper"? The last time I looked I didn't see a great keeper - Petr Cech, say - air-kicking a back pass or padding an innocuous cross at the feet of an opponent.
Interestingly, the need to believe that England are something more than a bunch of overpaid under-achievers is a contagion apparently restricted to the Beeb's television arm. Those with digital receivers are given the option, via a press of the red button, of having commentary provided for England matches not by Motty and the boys, but by Radio 5 Live. On Wednesday, anyone making such a switch halfway through was confronted by a bizarre broadcasting trick, a sort of cathode ray tromp l'oeil. The pictures appeared to be the same, these were the same players running around the same pitch and those were the same German fans providing the same noisy soundtrack in irony-laden English. But the two sets of commentators were clearly watching a completely different game.
On BBC1, it was all about great players being a bit rusty in front of goal; "not match fit" was the consensus. Good performance, unlucky result. Switching to 5 Live, suddenly you were transported into a world where everything was gloom, doom and despondency. England were "shocking": out-passed, out-manoeuvred and generally shown up by an ordinary Germany. Mocking laughter accompanied every misplaced pass or scuffed chance. "An embarrassment" was the conclusion. Now I know Alan Green's impression of Eeyore is not to everyone's taste. But no-one can deny that in this instance at least, his assessment of the pictures on radio roughly coincided with what our brain told us our eyes were seeing.
http://sport.telegraph.co.uk/jwhite
Clearest picture of England found on radio
By Jim White
When news filtered through to the BBC's Wembley commentary box on Wednesday night of Northern Ireland's victory over Liechtenstein, including as it did the inevitable brace from David Healy, John Motson was moved to say: "David Healy, well, ho ho, he's the Michael Owen of Northern Ireland isn't he?"
Not really John: Healy actually scores international goals.
It is an extraordinary thing watching the BBC's television coverage of England matches, for the degree to which all of their presenters, analysts and commentators still buy into the idea that this England team is a world leader, against which all others should be measured. Right now, the impoverished Steve McClaren would bite off someone's hand for an English David Healy, someone who after rounding the goalkeeper managed to put the ball into, rather than on top of, the net. Yet, according to Motty, the Downpatrick goal machine is simply an ersatz version of the real thing in white.It was non-stop, this misplaced assumption of where the England team stand. Gary Lineker told us that Frank Lampard, someone for whom the term "not bad on his day" was surely minted, is a "great player". Quite how he did so without cracking up is a testament to his broadcasting professionalism.
Alongside him, Ian Wright made an even bolder assault on the maintenance of a straight face by telling us that Paul Robinson is "a great keeper" who is just temporarily shorn of a bit of confidence and will undoubtedly come good in the end. It would take a hard heart not to hope the latter part of that statement is right. But a "great keeper"? The last time I looked I didn't see a great keeper - Petr Cech, say - air-kicking a back pass or padding an innocuous cross at the feet of an opponent.
Interestingly, the need to believe that England are something more than a bunch of overpaid under-achievers is a contagion apparently restricted to the Beeb's television arm. Those with digital receivers are given the option, via a press of the red button, of having commentary provided for England matches not by Motty and the boys, but by Radio 5 Live. On Wednesday, anyone making such a switch halfway through was confronted by a bizarre broadcasting trick, a sort of cathode ray tromp l'oeil. The pictures appeared to be the same, these were the same players running around the same pitch and those were the same German fans providing the same noisy soundtrack in irony-laden English. But the two sets of commentators were clearly watching a completely different game.
On BBC1, it was all about great players being a bit rusty in front of goal; "not match fit" was the consensus. Good performance, unlucky result. Switching to 5 Live, suddenly you were transported into a world where everything was gloom, doom and despondency. England were "shocking": out-passed, out-manoeuvred and generally shown up by an ordinary Germany. Mocking laughter accompanied every misplaced pass or scuffed chance. "An embarrassment" was the conclusion. Now I know Alan Green's impression of Eeyore is not to everyone's taste. But no-one can deny that in this instance at least, his assessment of the pictures on radio roughly coincided with what our brain told us our eyes were seeing.
http://sport.telegraph.co.uk/jwhite