Elder, Gatting et al

[Brighton Breezy]

After listening to the phone in it got me thinking. Is it not about time Elder or Gatting were given a short run in the team and a decision on their future made sooner rather than later?

Both do well for the reserves but, as has been said a lot on here, reserve team football is a million miles from first team these days.

Forwards need a run in the team to develop a partnership etc and, with the way Forster takes up a lot of wide positions I think we are lacking a real penalty box goal-poacher.

Why not give Gatting four or five games or Elder a run alongside Forster? Revell works hard but lacks a lot in ability. Will do as a squad player but not much else.

Seems silly to have Elder and Gatting on the books and not know whether they can cut it or not.

I'd get Gatting alongside Forster and bring Elder off the bench for 30 minutes in his place. If they are both shit and don't play well - let them go.

 

[Easy 10]

I've already made my mind up about Gatting. He's gubbins and will never cut it in League football.

Elder has a few rough edges but has potential. I'd like to see him given half a dozen games at some point. We're not going anywhere this season so we might as well see what the fella can do, see if he's worth keeping on for next season.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I think Gatting could be the lazy goalpoacher we are missing - if he gets a run in the team.

I don't see having either Elder or Gatting starting would drastically reduce our performance at the moment so might as well give them a go.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Well, over the course of the last six games it could well have reduced our goal tally by FIVE [of our total SEVEN] goals.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Well, over the course of the last six games it could well have reduced our goal tally by FIVE [of our total SEVEN] goals.

It could also have INCREASED it.

 

[questier]

Gatting had a chance to shine when he was playing on loan at Woking, he failed to do that which means he's not knocking on the door for the first team. When Jakey went on loan to Aldershot he scored something like 4 goals in 5 games and was getting rave reviews, when we brought him back, he was right back into the first team

 

[Napper]

Gatting isn't up to it IMO , he has had plenty of chances and started a fair few games . He also was no good at Woking.

Elder doesnt really look the part from what I've seen , however he needs a few more chances and a couple of starts before he is totally written off.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Gatting played a bit part when we were struggling and not creating a lot. Hardly a fair crack of the whip.

Robinson for example has been playing for a long time now and only recently looked like living up to even a smidgen of his potential.

 

[Napper]

Gatting played a bit part when we were struggling and not creating a lot. Hardly a fair crack of the whip.

Robinson for example has been playing for a long time now and only recently looked like living up to even a smidgen of his potential.

Not sure about that , how many appearances has Gatting made , must be quite a few.

Disagree about Robinson , although he was alot of the time poor , he did show glimpses of being superb ie tricky , fast and scaring defenders

Gatting has never shown anything , he isnt good in the air , not quick , can't beat a man , looks lazy. The only thing I can say is he was prolific at youth level

 

[El Presidente]

The only thing I can say is he was prolific at youth level

So is Gary Glitter

 

[face in the crowd]

Gatting has never shown anything , he isnt good in the air , not quick , can't beat a man , looks lazy. The only thing I can say is he was prolific at youth level

Gatting has never had an experienced head playing alongside him. Forster is great at talking people through a game and pointing out what they should be doing.

I'm still hoping that one of our un-named transfer targets is a strong hold up type of player that Gatting can learn from. If this type of player doesn't arrive, I would be relatively happy to see if Forster's presence has any affect on Gatting's performance in the starting line up.

 

[house your seagull]

i suppose as/if our seasons ebbs towards mid-table obscurity we can expect wilkins to take a few chances come april and let elder and gatting 'prove' themselves a bit ...

if joe gatting does read this site then i feel a bit sorry for him because of the stick he gets, on the other hand he looks a bit like a bat and i'm not sure i want bat-boys in the team ...

 

[binary]

Elder doesnt really look the part from what I've seen , /QUOTE]


As he only gets 5 minutes here and two minutes there he doesn't even get a chance to get the pace of the game. When he played at Cheltenham in the final game of last season he did well not only scoring but creating opportunities.

On Saturday Revell had a mare and Elder should have replaced him with half an hour to go. When he was due to come on then we scored and Wilkins obviously thought that would be enough.

Give the boy a go. We have games against some poor oppo coming up (Cheltenham, Pikies and Crewe) so that is an ideal opportunity to give him either a start or at least half an hour if we are not doing well.

 

[rusty redeyes]

Gatting has never had an experienced head playing alongside him. Forster is great at talking people through a game and pointing out what they should be doing.

I'm still hoping that one of our un-named transfer targets is a strong hold up type of player that Gatting can learn from. If this type of player doesn't arrive, I would be relatively happy to see if Forster's presence has any affect on Gatting's performance in the starting line up.

Agree Forster does appear to talk and try to help players through games, but by christ it didn't help Revell on Saturday did it!!! Forster was constantly on at him, but did he listen? To get the best out of Forster, I believe he needs to play off someone, not sure if Elder is astute enough to play that role yet.

Maybe our extensive coaching team don't have requisite striking knowledge to help our fledgling strikers?
Chappers - Defender
Wilkins - Midfield General
White - I'll come back to you on that
Crichton - keeper

 

[face in the crowd]

Agree Forster does appear to talk and try to help players through games, but by christ it didn't help Revell on Saturday did it!!! Forster was constantly on at him, but did he listen? To get the best out of Forster, I believe he needs to play off someone, not sure if Elder is astute enough to play that role yet.

Maybe our extensive coaching team don't have requisite striking knowledge to help our fledgling strikers?
Chappers - Defender
Wilkins - Midfield General
White - I'll come back to you on that
Crichton - keeper

The difference with Revell is that he is not a natural target man and is not at his best with his back to goal - the way he was asked to play on Saturday. As I said on another thread, the Revell\Forster partnership is great for Revell (look at the assists Forster has provided) but is not so good for Forster.

IMHO, both of them would benefit playing off somebody - Revell as backup to Forster.

 

[Napper]

Maybe our extensive coaching team don't have requisite striking knowledge to help our fledgling strikers?

Wilkins - Midfield General

From my memory of DW in midfield , I would say he was no where near general status

Midfield powder puff is more apt

 

[rusty redeyes]

From my memory of DW in midfield , I would say he was no where near general status

Midfield powder puff is more apt

I was having a One True Saxon moment, the "Midfiled General" is a quality jacket from their winter collection.

Back on subject, would having a specialist striking coach help our strikers develop? We have a keeping coach to assist how many keepers, 2/3?? How many strikers do we potentially have?
In no particular order -
Forster
Elder
Revell
Gatting
Gargan
Hart (midfield/striker)
Robinson plus youth teamers and do we have a coach for them?

 

[Napper]

I was having a One True Saxon moment, the "Midfiled General" is a quality jacket from their winter collection.

Back on subject, would having a specialist striking coach help our strikers develop? We have a keeping coach to assist how many keepers, 2/3?? How many strikers do we potentially have?
In no particular order -
Forster
Elder
Revell
Gatting
Gargan
Hart (midfield/striker)
Robinson plus youth teamers and do we have a coach for them?

Can't see it working, they have been playing football since they are 10 years old all these players and whilst they still lack experience ......... you can't polish a turd

 

[SeagullRic]

I'd definetly like to see Elder givien more of a go than 5 minutes here and there. Revell should still start as he's scored a few recently but Elder should be given half an hour becuase then Revells had a chance and will hopefully have worked hard enough to be knackered anyway.

However, I don't agree Forsters not benefiting off Revell. Forster has still had chances recently, he just hasn't finished them off like he was doing earlier on in the campaign.

 

[SeagullTim]

I think Gatting is the sort of striker we need, I just don't think he's good enough.

Elder should be given more of a chance if things aren't working out, more than 3 minutes at least.