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Eastenders....same old rubbish
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dougdeep
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I reckon people who watch soaps are rather sad. No offence.
dougdeep
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If that had come from someone I respected, that would have hurt.
I only insult posters I like.
Spun Cuppa
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It's either watch Eastenders or see through the hegemony. The choice is yours...
Vatican Citys No.2 Keeper
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Janine's in Archie's will so I think she's a shoe in for the culprit
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The TV's been shockingly shit today, more so then the usual offerings for Christmas Day. Did enjoy John Simm going all Heath Ledger in Dr Who though.
BensGrandad
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I think it will be Peggy as she is leaving in a couple of months and they have said they will not kill her off so it makes sense for her to go down for murder and do odd appearances from the nick.
hillbilly
In the hill, not over it!
I wonder who will legally own the Vic? What will Archie's will say? Oh, the excitement 
Hornblower
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Didnt someone else get wacked with the Queen Vic bust?
Loved it though, big Eastenders fan and see no shame in it. Watched Dr Who with half an eye - load of melodramatic cock.
Loved it though, big Eastenders fan and see no shame in it. Watched Dr Who with half an eye - load of melodramatic cock.
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
I thought it was a complete rip off of the Simpsons episode Who Shot Mr Burns - which in itself is a pastiche of many an old school classic murder mystery.
Rich old croney manages to piss off entire community giving a whole bucketload of people the motive to want him dead.
But what really annoyed me was the manner in which they dragged in extra suspects for the suspense, just like they did with the who got Heather preggers storyline, even though there's barely any real reason to include them. The late revelation that Archie had raped Stacey seemed unnecessary. He's already hated enough and has enough enemies, why throw that into the mix and make Bradley a suspect too? Bradley's no killer. And neither is Ian Beale. Besides, the whole idea of Archie wrecking Ian's marriage just for a laugh seems a bit far fetched. He got what he wanted out of Ian with the Vic loan agreement, why continue to threaten the pathetic little drip?
For me it has to have been Peggy or Ronnie. Jack would be too convenient - the aftermath wouldn't be so dramatic. And as for Phil, he probably passed out in the cellar on his way into the pub. This does possibly leave the door open for him to be wrongly accused however.
I'm quite pleased that nobody's managed to ruin it for me yet by plastering the culprit all over the front pages of every magazine in the newsagents or announcing it over the radio when I'm getting my hair cut (a la Who Shot Phil Mitchell).
Mind you, when Darren Miller came out as the guilty father of that fat trog's sprog nobody was expecting that and he wasn't even included in the list of potential suspects so perhaps they'll do the same here and get somebody out of the frame in. They could bring mad Shaun Slater back, he never officially died, he just disappeared as I recall.
Also I'm left thinking why not just get Sam to do it? She's come back after skipping bail for previously fleeing the country facing charges of perverting the course of justice in a murder trial so she's blatantly off to the clink again anyway, why not make the most of it, off old man Mitchell on your way back to HMP Walford?
And as for the idea that Janine stands to gain because of his will, that's clearly bullshit. It was never proven that he changed his will, so I very much doubt he did.
But the biggest question I'm left with is just what motivated the strange old boy? He seemed to try his utmost to become as hated as humanly possible by being a total **** to all and sundry, but I could never see where he was trying to go with it all. What did keeping his daughter's long lost baby's identity secret achieve? What was the point in winding Jack up about poking both his daughters? And why oh WHY would he rape loudmouth Stacey Slater? And even more bizarre, why would she just take it lying down and keep schtumm about it, given the fuss she makes over the slightest thing normally?
His final plea to Peggy to come back and pretend to love him was piss poor storytelling. He'd already had his way with younger ladies previously, with BOTH boobs in tact, and hadn't shown any real deep feelings for her when messing her about along with the rest of his family. It just seemed entirely hollow. The writers had just twisted this character into a sick f***ed up old man who feigned a clever superiority but in fact had no motive or direction when it came down to it.
Incidentally, when was the last Christmas that somebody DIDN'T die in Albert Square?
Rich old croney manages to piss off entire community giving a whole bucketload of people the motive to want him dead.
But what really annoyed me was the manner in which they dragged in extra suspects for the suspense, just like they did with the who got Heather preggers storyline, even though there's barely any real reason to include them. The late revelation that Archie had raped Stacey seemed unnecessary. He's already hated enough and has enough enemies, why throw that into the mix and make Bradley a suspect too? Bradley's no killer. And neither is Ian Beale. Besides, the whole idea of Archie wrecking Ian's marriage just for a laugh seems a bit far fetched. He got what he wanted out of Ian with the Vic loan agreement, why continue to threaten the pathetic little drip?
For me it has to have been Peggy or Ronnie. Jack would be too convenient - the aftermath wouldn't be so dramatic. And as for Phil, he probably passed out in the cellar on his way into the pub. This does possibly leave the door open for him to be wrongly accused however.
I'm quite pleased that nobody's managed to ruin it for me yet by plastering the culprit all over the front pages of every magazine in the newsagents or announcing it over the radio when I'm getting my hair cut (a la Who Shot Phil Mitchell).
Mind you, when Darren Miller came out as the guilty father of that fat trog's sprog nobody was expecting that and he wasn't even included in the list of potential suspects so perhaps they'll do the same here and get somebody out of the frame in. They could bring mad Shaun Slater back, he never officially died, he just disappeared as I recall.
Also I'm left thinking why not just get Sam to do it? She's come back after skipping bail for previously fleeing the country facing charges of perverting the course of justice in a murder trial so she's blatantly off to the clink again anyway, why not make the most of it, off old man Mitchell on your way back to HMP Walford?
And as for the idea that Janine stands to gain because of his will, that's clearly bullshit. It was never proven that he changed his will, so I very much doubt he did.
But the biggest question I'm left with is just what motivated the strange old boy? He seemed to try his utmost to become as hated as humanly possible by being a total **** to all and sundry, but I could never see where he was trying to go with it all. What did keeping his daughter's long lost baby's identity secret achieve? What was the point in winding Jack up about poking both his daughters? And why oh WHY would he rape loudmouth Stacey Slater? And even more bizarre, why would she just take it lying down and keep schtumm about it, given the fuss she makes over the slightest thing normally?
His final plea to Peggy to come back and pretend to love him was piss poor storytelling. He'd already had his way with younger ladies previously, with BOTH boobs in tact, and hadn't shown any real deep feelings for her when messing her about along with the rest of his family. It just seemed entirely hollow. The writers had just twisted this character into a sick f***ed up old man who feigned a clever superiority but in fact had no motive or direction when it came down to it.
Incidentally, when was the last Christmas that somebody DIDN'T die in Albert Square?
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agree it was pretty poor attempt at who shot Mr Burns and that was bad enough anyway. Sam will have done the crime because her contract which is not being renewed runs out a pretty much the time it will be revealed who did it. Or Peggy because she is leaving as well
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
I don't like Ronnie or Sam so if either of them go down I won't be too upset.
Phil still has some miles in him so there's no point getting rid of him just yet however the fact that Peggy is definitely on her way out does leave me thinking she could be the culprit, which would make sense and seem fairly justifiable.
If they make Bradley or Ian a killer however I really will lose faith in the show.
Oh and what about Max Branning? Surely they could have come up with a good excuse for him to hate Archie too? Sitting on his tod at Christmas, on plastic furniture having had all his goods repossessed, watching his family leave him forever... he's well in position to be well mad and up for some killing. I'd have sooner seen him in the frame than Bradley or Ian.
Phil still has some miles in him so there's no point getting rid of him just yet however the fact that Peggy is definitely on her way out does leave me thinking she could be the culprit, which would make sense and seem fairly justifiable.
If they make Bradley or Ian a killer however I really will lose faith in the show.
Oh and what about Max Branning? Surely they could have come up with a good excuse for him to hate Archie too? Sitting on his tod at Christmas, on plastic furniture having had all his goods repossessed, watching his family leave him forever... he's well in position to be well mad and up for some killing. I'd have sooner seen him in the frame than Bradley or Ian.
Meade's Ball
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Max will still have storylines when Stacey gives birth to a stubbly, mostly-bald, upside-down eyebrowed ginger baby that looks randily at anything that passes, his hefty wife back in his arms, the daughter that ran him over by then being old enough to legally fancy, and winning that car of his back in another raffle, him finding the winning ticket in a condom he used 3 days before that he staples to his Done Them folder with photos and phone numbers and scores out of 9.