I stayed in one of those in the Languedoc once. The toilets stunk of raw sewage. I know just what you mean.
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Dr Carneiro
- Thread starter Steve in Japan
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I stayed in one of those in the Languedoc once. The toilets stunk of raw sewage. I know just what you mean.
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Also pleased for her. It was clear right from the incident itself, and what happened next, she had been the victim of humiliating and unfiar treatment from her 'line manager'; almost certainly sexism; and almost certainly constructive dismissal.
She had such a good case Chelsea's only practical solution was to settle (Mourinho too), other stuff would have come out, so it was all about a number. The only shame in these cases is that you don't get the full hearing and outcome/verdict from a judge, and guilty parties having the legal book thrown at them in public.
And I'm sure Man Utd have has a big say in this, they would have told him to swallow his pride (not enough to apologise, which he should have done on day two) and settle.
Carneiro has come out of this with reputation intact (and that might have been damaged too in an ugly full tribunal) and a few million.
One thing I really hope happens next is that she gets a good, high profile medical job in sport, because that is what she is qualified to do. What I don't want to see is some PR adviser getting hold of her and telling her to do Strictly/I'm A Celebrity next for some easy money, because that will undermine some of what she has been saying.
She had such a good case Chelsea's only practical solution was to settle (Mourinho too), other stuff would have come out, so it was all about a number. The only shame in these cases is that you don't get the full hearing and outcome/verdict from a judge, and guilty parties having the legal book thrown at them in public.
And I'm sure Man Utd have has a big say in this, they would have told him to swallow his pride (not enough to apologise, which he should have done on day two) and settle.
Carneiro has come out of this with reputation intact (and that might have been damaged too in an ugly full tribunal) and a few million.
One thing I really hope happens next is that she gets a good, high profile medical job in sport, because that is what she is qualified to do. What I don't want to see is some PR adviser getting hold of her and telling her to do Strictly/I'm A Celebrity next for some easy money, because that will undermine some of what she has been saying.
She played this very well. Let the other side see the full strength of your case leading up to the Tribunal, employers always start to get nervous as the Tribunal date approaches and given what we know about the respective merits of each sides case I would say that Chelsea were, by the day of the Tribunal, bricking it. It's easy peasy then .... Carneiro's brief suggest a confidential out of court settlement on the steps of the Tribunal at a grossly inflated rate playing on Chelsea's deep seated nervousness about the case - Chelsea and Mourinho are only too willing to negotiate to avoid public humiliation and give her what she wants with a few quid knocked off to save face - job done. The fact that Mourinho turned up on the day, as opposed to next week when he was expected to give evidence, is a very strong indicator that they intended/hoped to settle before things got nasty and embarrassing for them.
Saladpack Seagull
Just Shut Up and Paddle
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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To be fair, how do we know that she isn't just as narcissistic as Mourinho?
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Even if Chelsea's "allegations" were true, they are hardly shocking/impressive/justification for dismissal.
I would read those points and think "I'm not sure what these actually have to do with anything".
Were they hinting that she was overly keen to run on the pitch to get more camera time
Publius Ovidius
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As el pres hasn't appeared....but would you?
- Jul 7, 2003
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Been thinking the same. Although it seems from the Telegraph report today that Dr Carneiro's barrister is an Old Trafford season ticket holder
Bet the United lawyers were all over this though, for fear of their new manager being portrayed as the next Richard Keys or Andy Gray.
Quite right that she got her apology, by the way (from Chelsea, if not from that weasel Mourinho). It wasn't just her who ran on to treat poor, injured Eden Hazard. There was a male member of the medical team too. But Mourinho focused almost all of his post match ire on Carneiro for some reason. Standard Jose. When you're not doing well on the pitch, raise some other issue to detract the focus from your own poor performance. Remember the Ashley Barnes tackle on (?) Ivanovic?
Cheeky Monkey
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The whole thing stinks of ongoing sexual tension between Mourinho and Carneiro for my money. You just know it.
- Jul 7, 2003
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I'd be surprised if they'd actually had anything going on between them, simply because she was evidently quite willing to go to court. If they'd been sleeping together, that would have all been dragged out into the public view.
Perhaps he tried to crack on to her, and she said no. That would be amusing: somebody saying no to the Special One.
sydney
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she was noshing half the team apparently.
Though the other physio did not remonstrate with Mourinho on the pitch. His initial anger was directed at both, then Carneiro, then both again afterwards.
You can imagine the ego on Mourinho, regardless of the fact he was wrong, he wouldn't admit it.
hampshirebrightonboy
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- Sep 3, 2011
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Have you got a spare £5m for court case number 2
maltaseagull
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This, for me, highlights what is wrong with a lot of football these days.
Here we have a clear case of a player feigning injury well enough to con the ref and the Doctor.
What punishment did he get?
20 seconds off the pitch.
Couldn't agree more. The fact that's it's actually a tactic really annoys me too. Players who claim a "head injury" to stop a dangerous attack seem to happen most games.
Allowing the physio onto the pitch without stopping play as in Rugby would put an end to that .
Sensible idea. It'll never happen as rugby is a dirty word at the FA.
ROSM
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Been thinking the same. Although it seems from the Telegraph report today that Dr Carneiro's barrister is an Old Trafford season ticket holder
Bet the United lawyers were all over this though, for fear of their new manager being portrayed as the next Richard Keys or Andy Gray.
Quite right that she got her apology, by the way (from Chelsea, if not from that weasel Mourinho). It wasn't just her who ran on to treat poor, injured Eden Hazard. There was a male member of the medical team too. But Mourinho focused almost all of his post match ire on Carneiro for some reason. Standard Jose. When you're not doing well on the pitch, raise some other issue to detract the focus from your own poor performance. Remember the Ashley Barnes tackle on (?) Ivanovic?
And Chelsea 's season ended there. She was popular with the players and they didn't like the way she was treated. They downed tools and the team spirit collapsed. Soon enough mourinho is forces out
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Unfortunately due to the flow of Rugby vs Football, it just couldn't happen. Far too dangerous to still have a game going on around a player whereas in rugby the movement of players is far more structured and a ref can halt play if he is fearful that an attack will be around the stranded player/physio.
You see how annoyed the crowd get when refs get in the way of the ball. I can just see Mourinho telling his physio to run on the pitch and get in the way of the ball "by accident" during a counter attack