[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Machiavelli]

Whoever is in charge, Trump or chubby cheeks, the world has got at least 3.75 more years of this utter shitshow to contend with.

Individuals, businesses, nations and whole trading blocs need to plan accordingly. Just don't ask me how to do that.

Yup. That just about sums it up.
I would say enjoy the ride, but it's not going to be enjoyable.

 

[Gabbafella]

 

[wellquickwoody]

Cut the US out of the equation. Accept that we have lost a percentage of our exports forever but, strike deals with the EU/ASIA and the " good " BRIC's. Other than armaments almost everything we need can be sourced elsewhere....and, we can step up our own armaments to replace.

Been thinking roughly the same myself. The UseLessEh? is just about 350 million of the planets 7 billion population. If the rest of us take a little short term pain to invest in the long term we can ensure that the Septics get the isolation that they so desire. We build trading relationships around the world and just leave the Yanks circling in their own small cesspit that they made for themselves.

 

[bhafc99]

So if we follow the logic (yeah I know but stick with it). If God controls the climate then he/she/they has chosen to increase natural disasters in the last decade or so, fires, drought, cyclones, etc etc.

We would have to ask ourselves why? They are not adverse to using weather events to punish us for wrong doing, Noah's flood, pestilence, raining frogs etc. so perhaps we are doing shit wrong? Orare they just a psychotic god that likes to f*** with us?

and these people worship this god?

The belief that there’s some bloke with a beard and long flowing robes sitting somewhere up there in outer space, sagely deliberating whether or not to make it a little bit windy in Bumfart Indiana later this afternoon, is just incredible.

 

[Bakero]

So if we follow the logic (yeah I know but stick with it). If God controls the climate then he/she/they has chosen to increase natural disasters in the last decade or so, fires, drought, cyclones, etc etc.

We would have to ask ourselves why? They are not adverse to using weather events to punish us for wrong doing, Noah's flood, pestilence, raining frogs etc. so perhaps we are doing shit wrong? Orare they just a psychotic god that likes to f*** with us?

and these people worship this god?

I imagine they'd say he's punishing us for the increase in Wokery.

 

[sparkie]

Putin must be dancing in the Kremlin.

Krasnov is destroying the USA from within.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

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You missed point 0.5 - tell your billionaire mates you are about crash the market so to sell at a high. Then follow the other points.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

• Nazi policies and the economy:
  The Nazi regime implemented policies aimed at improving the economy, including privatization of state-owned industries and an attempt to achieve autarky (national economic self-sufficiency).
  
  
• Nazi propaganda and economic recovery:
  The Nazis used propaganda to portray themselves as the saviors of the German economy, claiming to have broken the chains constricting Germany in 1918 and allowed the country to economically thrive.
  
  
• Economic recovery and rearmament:
  While some economic indicators improved under the Nazis, this was largely due to employees working longer hours, while the hourly wage rates remained low. The Nazi focus on rearmament and war created a demand for labor, but at the expense of consumer goods and living standards for many Germans
  
  

To be fair to the Nazis (can't believe I've just typed that) - point 2 is valid. It was the repessive punishments Germany got given that allowed the Nazis to thrive and grow. Trump has no such excuse.

 

[aolstudios]

Putin must be dancing in the Kremlin.

Krasnov is destroying the USA from within.

As was always the plan.
See also, Brexit

 

[Han Solo]

• Nazi policies and the economy:
  The Nazi regime implemented policies aimed at improving the economy, including privatization of state-owned industries and an attempt to achieve autarky (national economic self-sufficiency).
  
  
• Nazi propaganda and economic recovery:
  The Nazis used propaganda to portray themselves as the saviors of the German economy, claiming to have broken the chains constricting Germany in 1918 and allowed the country to economically thrive.
  
  
• Economic recovery and rearmament:
  While some economic indicators improved under the Nazis, this was largely due to employees working longer hours, while the hourly wage rates remained low. The Nazi focus on rearmament and war created a demand for labor, but at the expense of consumer goods and living standards for many Germans

Generally speaking, people are clueless about things like this. Many Americans (and others) have a very simplistic view of it:

1. There was a German angry guy with a moustache.
2. He built gas chambers and gassed Jews.
3. America joined in a war against him and saved the world.

The end. All those pesky little details about how Hitler manipulated opinion and perceptions etc... meh. Not important, apparently.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Generally speaking, people are clueless about things like this. Many Americans (and others) have a very simplistic view of it:

1. There was a German angry guy with a moustache.
2. He built gas chambers and gassed Jews.
3. America joined in a war against him and saved the world.

The end. All those pesky little details about how Hitler manipulated opinion and perceptions etc... meh. Not important, apparently.

You've missed some points before point 1 and point 2 happened later after he was elected as Chancellor due to his rhetoric about Germans being punished for WWI. The USA only joined the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour - until then they were neutral. Britain and it's allies such as Canada, Australia and India won the war with late assistance from the USA and Russia.

 

[jcdenton08]

You've missed some points before point 1 and point 2 happened later after he was elected as Chancellor due to his rhetoric about Germans being punished for WWI. The USA only joined the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour - until then they were neutral. Britain and it's allies such as Canada, Australia and India won the war with late assistance from the USA and Russia.

I think he’s saying that’s all Americans “know” about the subject

 

[fly high]

You've missed some points before point 1 and point 2 happened later after he was elected as Chancellor due to his rhetoric about Germans being punished for WWI. The USA only joined the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour - until then they were neutral. Britain and it's allies such as Canada, Australia and India won the war with late assistance from the USA and Russia.

Think it was more we held them at bay in Europe till the Yanks joined in. What the Yanks always seem to miss is they got an absolute shed load of money off the UK but we got f*** all off the rest of Europe.

 

[Bakero]

You've missed some points before point 1 and point 2 happened later after he was elected as Chancellor due to his rhetoric about Germans being punished for WWI. The USA only joined the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour - until then they were neutral. Britain and it's allies such as Canada, Australia and India won the war with late assistance from the USA and Russia.

You've missed the point that he's missed some points purposefully.

 

[Weststander]

Putin must be dancing in the Kremlin.

Krasnov is destroying the USA from within.

If Trump possessed a brain cell, he’d do the opposite to what Putin likes …. on everything. The tariffs war is destroying long term alliances and US economic strength will be hit.

What a t@sser.

 

[Han Solo]

You've missed some points before point 1 and point 2 happened later after he was elected as Chancellor due to his rhetoric about Germans being punished for WWI. The USA only joined the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour - until then they were neutral. Britain and it's allies such as Canada, Australia and India won the war with late assistance from the USA and Russia.

Well, if a higher percentage of the US population was some kind of reasonably well-educated academic smelling their own conserved farts from some jar like the meeky Western middle class spends their days doing, Donald Trump would not be president, since he is a fascist. As it stands, most people are undereducated, impoverished and angry and won't have heard of no Chancellor, nor are they at this point going to listen to the self-indulgent middle and upper classes who never listened to them and their concerns. No one listened to them when they tried to say "the state, the capital and getting replaced by underpaid immigrant workers is f***ing up my life and I need help" and equally, they are not going to listen when we try to say "hey, your apparatus is looking a little bit nazi or at the very least fascist".

Maybe the great mutual and informed discussion between the happy successful people and the unhappy struggling people is waiting just around the corner, but I'm not getting those signals. Donald Trump can use every tool in the most obvious of demagogue instruction books and his supporters simply just won't give a shit.

You've missed the point that he's missed some points purposefully.

Indeed

 

[aolstudios]

If Trump possessed a brain cell, he’d do the opposite to what Putin likes …. on everything. The tariffs war is destroying long term alliances and US economic strength will be hit.

What a t@sser.

True but he's not *just* thick.
He belongs to Putin.
Absolutely

 

[A1X]

 

[fly high]

Well, if a higher percentage of the US population was some kind of reasonably well-educated academic smelling their own conserved farts from some jar like the meeky Western middle class spends their days doing, Donald Trump would not be president, since he is a fascist. As it stands, most people are undereducated, impoverished and angry and won't have heard of no Chancellor, nor are they at this point going to listen to the self-indulgent middle and upper classes who never listened to them and their concerns. No one listened to them when they tried to say "the state, the capital and getting replaced by underpaid immigrant workers is f***ing up my life and I need help" and equally, they are not going to listen when we try to say "hey, your apparatus is looking a little bit nazi or at the very least fascist".

Maybe the great mutual and informed discussion between the happy successful people and the unhappy struggling people is waiting just around the corner, but I'm not getting those signals. Donald Trump can use every tool in the most obvious of demagogue instruction books and his supporters simply just won't give a shit.


Indeed

I wonder can you say the same for UK & Reform.

 

[Bakero]

I'm in the wrong business