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Zeberdi

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This is rather sad. A mayoral candidate with ADHD shrugs off the fact that the leader of her party 'quite frankly' thinks all this mental health business is being 'massively' overdiagnosed.
It speaks to a willingness to abandon all reason when the bigger picture is self interest.
When you see the characters involved it may perhaps become less surprising.


Not sure if this is the right thread for this, and will happily delete this post if requested, bearing in mind that mental health and neurodiversity are political issues for some of us.
Another media story that’s confusing neurodiversity with mental illness. It is irrelevant that she is neurodiverse unless she has MH problems too.

Maybe better be on the neurodiversity thread? ie the one @BadFish started - I really wish people would start treating MH and neurodiversity as distinctly separate issues despite the two often being concurrent.

 


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Another media story that’s confusing neurodiversity with mental illness. It is irrelevant that she is neurodiverse unless she has MH problems too.

Maybe better be on the neurodiversity thread? ie the one @BadFish started - I really wish people would start treating MH and neurodiversity as distinctly separate issues despite the two often being concurrent.

OK, I'll delete the post.
 








SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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Sep 28, 2004
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Not sure this is the right place but my daughter, who was a first year student in Spain till March this year had a complete breakdown. We brought her back to Turkey but she refuses to accept her condition. She is nineteen years old so we have very limited power but she is refusing to take the top up injection that would help her keep improving (clear signs of improvement since she took it). We know it's a long road and we have categorically avoided any pressure from us but with refusing the injection and refusing to see the doctor she could spiral down fast and we feel helpless. Does anyone have any advice?
 


chickens

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Not sure this is the right place but my daughter, who was a first year student in Spain till March this year had a complete breakdown. We brought her back to Turkey but she refuses to accept her condition. She is nineteen years old so we have very limited power but she is refusing to take the top up injection that would help her keep improving (clear signs of improvement since she took it). We know it's a long road and we have categorically avoided any pressure from us but with refusing the injection and refusing to see the doctor she could spiral down fast and we feel helpless. Does anyone have any advice?

Only that with a daughter a few years younger than yours, we’ve recently had something similar. All I can advise is patience, and keeping in touch with the medical professionals trying to help her.

Ask her for explicit consent to maintain a line of communication with her doctors, accept her decision to not take the shot, but reassure her that it’s there if she needs it. Try to get as much information as you can on what her doctors expect to happen as a result of not taking the follow-up medication and what constitutes a behaviour that would mean the decision needs to be taken out of her hands.

It’s a horrible, depressing, messy and dangerous situation to be in, and you have my sympathy. As a legal adult, there’s no question of forcing your daughter to take a medication against her will, until such a time is reached that she is deemed to not have capacity to make decisions on her own account. Plus you would destroy the trust that I assume currently exists in your relationship.

Watching somebody you love go under with no visible trigger or root cause is incredibly distressing. For yourself, get rest, don’t spiral yourself. Try to eat healthy, not too much alcohol. Take it in shifts if possible and get rest. It can be a long haul.

My daughter seems to be on the mend, but it’s slow and fragile. I wish the best to you and your family.
 


SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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Sep 28, 2004
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Only that with a daughter a few years younger than yours, we’ve recently had something similar. All I can advise is patience, and keeping in touch with the medical professionals trying to help her.

Ask her for explicit consent to maintain a line of communication with her doctors, accept her decision to not take the shot, but reassure her that it’s there if she needs it. Try to get as much information as you can on what her doctors expect to happen as a result of not taking the follow-up medication and what constitutes a behaviour that would mean the decision needs to be taken out of her hands.

It’s a horrible, depressing, messy and dangerous situation to be in, and you have my sympathy. As a legal adult, there’s no question of forcing your daughter to take a medication against her will, until such a time is reached that she is deemed to not have capacity to make decisions on her own account. Plus you would destroy the trust that I assume currently exists in your relationship.

Watching somebody you love go under with no visible trigger or root cause is incredibly distressing. For yourself, get rest, don’t spiral yourself. Try to eat healthy, not too much alcohol. Take it in shifts if possible and get rest. It can be a long haul.

My daughter seems to be on the mend, but it’s slow and fragile. I wish the best to you and your family.
Thank you so much for this. very good advice which, it seems we have so far been on the right track with... if you can ever be on the right track, that is. Wish you all the best with yours.
 








Withdean South Stand

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Not sure this is the right place but my daughter, who was a first year student in Spain till March this year had a complete breakdown. We brought her back to Turkey but she refuses to accept her condition. She is nineteen years old so we have very limited power but she is refusing to take the top up injection that would help her keep improving (clear signs of improvement since she took it). We know it's a long road and we have categorically avoided any pressure from us but with refusing the injection and refusing to see the doctor she could spiral down fast and we feel helpless. Does anyone have any advice?
Really sorry to hear this, horrible experience for everyone involved. Unfortunately, I have nothing as productive as @chickens said (what a thing to type), but I would urge you to keep talking to her. Keep listening to her and if she's not wanting to face her reality or speak about it with you, get her talking about literally anything else. Words can flow like a river and if you can get her talking to you, she might work her way up to talking about the situation.

I really wish you and your family all the very best and please also look after yourself, this must be incredibly draining and tiring for you.
Waiting for a psychological assessment (happening in June I believe) - got a couple different diagnosis on the 'working diganosis' list from the psychiatrist
It sounds like you're making good progress, I hope you're feeling positive about getting a clear understanding of what's going on and what you can do to mitigate it. Look after yourself and make sure you're taking care of yourself.
 




TomandJerry

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Really sorry to hear this, horrible experience for everyone involved. Unfortunately, I have nothing as productive as @chickens said (what a thing to type), but I would urge you to keep talking to her. Keep listening to her and if she's not wanting to face her reality or speak about it with you, get her talking about literally anything else. Words can flow like a river and if you can get her talking to you, she might work her way up to talking about the situation.

I really wish you and your family all the very best and please also look after yourself, this must be incredibly draining and tiring for you.

It sounds like you're making good progress, I hope you're feeling positive about getting a clear understanding of what's going on and what you can do to mitigate it. Look after yourself and make sure you're taking care of yourself.
To be honest I wish could have a more positive view on things - I've had a semi clear idea of what's going on and I'm not sure what the psychologist assesment can add other than perhaps rubber stamp the working diagnosis and offer other medication.

But perhaps I'm on the wrong medication currently
 


pearl

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To be honest I wish could have a more positive view on things - I've had a semi clear idea of what's going on and I'm not sure what the psychologist assesment can add other than perhaps rubber stamp the working diagnosis and offer other medication.

But perhaps I'm on the wrong medication currently
It's hard to be positive sometimes, but the assesment might reveal more of what is going on. Please post on here if you feel everything is hopeless. Very best wishes and good luck. Take care.
 


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It's hard to be positive sometimes, but the assesment might reveal more of what is going on. Please post on here if you feel everything is hopeless. Very best wishes and good luck. Take care.
I am always reminded of the man who thought he'd gone blind, only to discover that he had put on a hat that was too big.
(Douglas Adams).

I am also reminded of the great question: what would success look like?
What is it that's blighting you that you'd like to change?

Obviously these question only apply if you are not in a state of crippling anxiety or depression,
and can't see beyond your own eyeballs.
Still....

Best wishes, everyone. It's never straightforward, is it?
 




Zeberdi

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To be honest I wish could have a more positive view on things - I've had a semi clear idea of what's going on and I'm not sure what the psychologist assesment can add other than perhaps rubber stamp the working diagnosis and offer other medication.

But perhaps I'm on the wrong medication currently
The MH services love assessments 😉 - and it is part of the pathway to more care if needed.

I found out yesterday that after an 18 month battle to get accepted by the MH team (that involved recommendations and/or direct referrals from
  • The Long Covid Team
  • Community Physio Team
  • Neurologist
  • Clinical Psychologist who wrote a supporting letter (and who confirmed my autism, cognitive impairments and MH needs)
  • The PTSD Clinic
  • The Pain Clinic
  • A recommendation from the NHS autism services
  • Two lots of Community MH Crisis referrals
  • Expedition of two referrals by GP
  • 3 MH crisis assessments)
my referral to get MH support (to cope with all my physical pain, PTSD and autistic burn outs) was finally accepted.

I am incredibly relieved as it really felt like the last chance saloon for me on a number of levels.

If you get offered a psychologist assessment, I would definitely take it - not only are these appointments like gold dust but once on that pathway, it becomes a lot easier to manage your care and get some diagnoses and most importantly crisis support when needed..

Remember, the dark moments pass.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The MH services love assessments 😉 - and it is part of the pathway to more care if needed.

I found out yesterday that after an 18 month battle to get accepted by the MH team (that involved recommendations and/or direct referrals from
  • The Long Covid Team
  • Community Physio Team
  • Neurologist
  • Clinical Psychologist who wrote a supporting letter (and who confirmed my autism, cognitive impairments and MH needs)
  • The PTSD Clinic
  • The Pain Clinic
  • A recommendation from the NHS autism services
  • Two lots of Community MH Crisis referrals
  • Expedition of two referrals by GP
  • 3 MH crisis assessments)
my referral to get MH support (to cope with all my physical pain, PTSD and autistic burn outs) was finally accepted.

I am incredibly relieved as it really felt like the last chance saloon for me on a number of levels.

If you get offered a psychologist assessment, I would definitely take it - not only are these appointments like gold dust but once on that pathway, it becomes a lot easier to manage your care and get some diagnoses and most importantly crisis support when needed..

Remember, the dark moments pass.
Thank you for your response.

I'm definitely going to take the appointment - just waiting on a letter of confirmation.

I've been under various mental health teams and I suppose this is the next step?
 


Zeberdi

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Thank you for your response.

I'm definitely going to take the appointment - just waiting on a letter of confirmation.

I've been under various mental health teams and I suppose this is the next step?
Yes and it is a good one too. 🙂
 






Zeberdi

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