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Richard Whiteley

New member
Sep 24, 2003
585
If so, why?

Apart from the fact that they are full of utter shite, as a football fan and I assume most of you are English football fans, how can anyone stomach this kind of shite?


"With only 58 days to the start of The World Cup, The Sun and The News of The World are pleased to have reached a settlement with Wayne Rooney.

"We can now put this case behind us and focus on a great tournament.

"We wish him and the England team every success in Germany and look forward to welcoming them back with the World Cup trophy."



Mother fuckers
 




WATFORD O

Banned
Jul 6, 2003
3,451
SW6
I hate these papers with a passion. Its typical fodder for the proles cos they cant think for themselves...........f***ing WANKERS.
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
I blame the Sun for keeping the Tories in for so long, so am extremely unlikely to read it, besides the fact that the only thing that is believable is the horoscopes.
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
What I can't get over is how they expose paedos and sex attackers (quite rightly) yet the rags are FULL of semi naked women and adverts for sex lines.

Hypocritical bastards.
 








Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Plus one of the sunday red tops did an expose on Paedophiles a couple of years back, except that they got some details wrong and printed pictures of some innocent men, resulting in wide-spread public disorder and ruined lives. I doubt if they even bothered to print a retraction or pay compensation, mind you it was too late by then as most of their readers had had their minds made up for them.
 


Minge

New member
Jan 3, 2005
201
Some NOTW readers attacked a bloke because he worked as a paedriatric nurse. BUFFOONS, no wonder Richie Morris wants to be a journo there.
 






Jul 20, 2003
21,708
Selling 'his story' (YAWN) to the paper a few years ago was by far the biggest blemish on his career IMHO - a footballing scouser doing business with that shit rag shows absolutely no respect whatsoever.
 


southstandandy

WEST STAND ANDY
Jul 9, 2003
6,344
Correction ; They are not NEWSpapers, they are gossip rags - the gutter press. I would'nt even wrap my chips in them.
 




The Sun is cleverly done, you can marvel at the techniques that have made it popular even if you can't stand its appalling pandering to hate politics and its slimy, dishonest protection of the establishment.

It has pioneered in the last 20 years that jokey, have-a-laugh at anything postmodern approach that has so overtaken our culture. It has led the way with the celebrity obsession and has been at the forefront of popular cultural trends.

It is also very good at reinventing itself and antipating trends rather than just reacting to them. I couldn't believe it the other day when I opened it to find that they had hired a Muslim female columnist complete in traditional dress, arguing standard left-liberal pro-multicultural arguments. I had to quickly check the date to see if it was April 1 and the cunning bastards were trying to have a laugh at my expense, but no, it was genuine.

http://www.asianimage.co.uk/features/display.var.690460.0.a_writer_who_just_baigs_to_differ.php

http://www.asiansinmedia.org/news/article.php/publishing/713

I hate the rag and what it represents, but it's a formidable enemy employing very clever and talented people, some of the most talented that British journalism has produced.
 


Richard Whiteley

New member
Sep 24, 2003
585
London Irish said:
The Sun is cleverly done, you can marvel at the techniques that have made it popular even if you can't stand its appalling pandering to hate politics and its slimy, dishonest protection of the establishment.

It has pioneered in the last 20 years that jokey, have-a-laugh at anything postmodern approach that has so overtaken our culture. It has led the way with the celebrity obsession and has been at the forefront of popular cultural trends.

It is also very good at reinventing itself and antipating trends rather than just reacting to them. I couldn't believe it the other day when I opened it to find that they had hired a Muslim female columnist complete in traditional dress, arguing standard left-liberal pro-multicultural arguments. I had to quickly check the date to see if it was April 1 and the cunning bastards were trying to have a laugh at my expense, but no, it was genuine.

http://www.asianimage.co.uk/features/display.var.690460.0.a_writer_who_just_baigs_to_differ.php

http://www.asiansinmedia.org/news/article.php/publishing/713

I hate the rag and what it represents, but it's a formidable enemy employing very clever and talented people, some of the most talented that British journalism has produced.

you are bang right

they are very very good at what they do. which makes it all the more depressing
 


Tooting Gull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
11,035
Richard Whiteley said:
you are bang right

they are very very good at what they do. which makes it all the more depressing

What's really depressing is a little oik like you telling people what paper to read. Grow up.

I agree with a lot of what LI has said, and would add only this. I have a couple of good mates who write for the Sun, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that they are among the best, brightest, and most creative in their field.

This is a generalisation - but their counterparts on the broadsheets often just aren't up to it, and hang on to their coattails on stories, or write longer more wordy pieces about stories the Sun or other tabloids have broken.

People often think of the Haywards etc when they think of quality journalism, but very few hacks are at a level when they get that amount of space to say what they want on what they want. He's earned that right of course because he's consistently excellent, but that is not what most journalism is.
 






SussexSpur

New member
Jan 24, 2004
1,696
Finchley
London Irish said:

It is also very good at reinventing itself and antipating trends rather than just reacting to them. I couldn't believe it the other day when I opened it to find that they had hired a Muslim female columnist complete in traditional dress, arguing standard left-liberal pro-multicultural arguments. I had to quickly check the date to see if it was April 1 and the cunning bastards were trying to have a laugh at my expense, but no, it was genuine.

Though she seems mostly nowadays to just do the daily TV previews - making Mike Ward look like Wittgenstein.

Am currently ploughing through Roy Greenslade's book on the Press since WWII - very intriguing on Murdoch's reinvention of the Sun after it was abandoned by the Mirror group, supposedly staying a "Labour" paper even when urging people to vote Tory in 79 - and surging across and away from there...

Does what it does very effectively, sure - though I think the Mail now does it better.
Perhaps now News International is trying to gingerly backtrack from its various legal tussles with England players and the coach ahead of full World Cup fever - they certainly seem to be giving Ashley Cole and Cheryl Tweedy plenty of very soft-soap coverage all of a sudden, in contrast to the barbs of not too long ago.

Funny how the media - not just papers - can perform the most spectacular U-turns, yet are so quick to hurl the hypocritical tag, innit... Ah well. ;)
 


HampshireSeagulls

Moulding Generation Z
Jul 19, 2005
5,264
Bedford
Ah - the Scum. Don't forget, they have a "partner-beater" for an editor, and one of their correspondents is a convicted murderer (killed his wife in a failed suicide pact).

Biggest crime of all - they employed Garry "Gaz" Bushell....
 


Richard Whiteley

New member
Sep 24, 2003
585
Tooting Gull said:
What's really depressing is a little oik like you telling people what paper to read. Grow up.


I'm not telling anyone what paper to read. Just asking why anyone would read the complete shite that the Sun/NotW put out, for example that patronising piece of crap that I quoted. You know some people who write for them? Well done you.

Grow up.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
74,258
Funny thing is, the people who write for The Sun and the NoTW have got the same snotty, superior attitude as those wot write for the broadsheets. So, sure, they are smug patronising gits. They talk down to the level their market research shows they should. All part of life's rich tapestry innit?
 


E

enigma

Guest
I read the Sun occasionally, buy the NOTw on Sunday for sheer entertainment- stories like "Phil Mitchell caught dogging" or the Sven and the fake sheikh saga crack me up.What that says about me....:lolol:

I read the broadsheets as well- the Guardian online, more for the Sport and the Arts, the Times and the Indy.

As someone else has said, I dont think there is anything wrong with someone like me reading such papers- I find them entertaining and read them for no other purpose. I dont agree with what Littlejohns shitty columns used to say.

It is worrying however when people take what they read as gospel....
 


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