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Dickinson dropped for night out then 'sickie' the following day!



seagullsovergrimsby

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You would also ring in sick after nearly rupturing yourself lifting a hefty bird. :rolleyes:
 




TonyW

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An Albion players intinary.

Saturday 24th October - out of the piss and clubbing after another home defeat
Tuesday 27th October - out to wtach Dizzy Rascal and then clubbing
Monday 2nd November - out on the town to celebrate another home defeat

And thats just the ones that have made the press/NSC in the last 2 weeks.

You know, I could have sworn they were grown men, getting paid for a job of work.

Why the f*** should Bloom or Hinschlewood, or any other chairman/manager have any right whatsoever to tell them what they can do with their evenings if its not the night before a game.

If your boss tried that with you, you'd tell him to f*** off.

And quite right too.

Why we treat footballers this way is beyond me.
They are young men with pockets full of money.
Let them enjoy spending it, instead of treating them like morons.
You might just see a better work ethic with some give and take.

Wankers with power!!!!!
 


Uncle Spielberg

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I am not expected to perfrom as an athlete though am I.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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I need to get hold of a Woman first mate.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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You know, I could have sworn they were grown men, getting paid for a job of work.

Why the f*** should Bloom or Hinschlewood, or any other chairman/manager have any right whatsoever to tell them what they can do with their evenings if its not the night before a game.

If your boss tried that with you, you'd tell him to f*** off.

And quite right too.

Why we treat footballers this way is beyond me.
They are young men with pockets full of money.
Let them enjoy spending it, instead of treating them like morons.
You might just see a better work ethic with some give and take.

Wankers with power!!!!!

My understanding is that it was a night before training, and Dicko called in sick the next day. It was only that his photo appeared in the press we know this. I help pay this fellas wages so I feel a bit let down by him, especially as he also cost us a lot of money and it not really delivering the goods.

I do not begrudge players a night out but the circumstances are slightly different in this case.
 




Acker79

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You know, I could have sworn they were grown men, getting paid for a job of work.

Why the f*** should Bloom or Hinschlewood, or any other chairman/manager have any right whatsoever to tell them what they can do with their evenings if its not the night before a game.

If your boss tried that with you, you'd tell him to f*** off.

And quite right too.

Why we treat footballers this way is beyond me.
They are young men with pockets full of money.
Let them enjoy spending it, instead of treating them like morons.
You might just see a better work ethic with some give and take.

Wankers with power!!!!!

My workplace has a policy that requires anyone who is wearing their uniform or seen as a representative of the company behaves in a way that does not embarrass the company. This is quite common.

No, He wasn't wearing a uniform, but as a professional footballer his connection to the club is public knowledge, any appearance in public will be seen as being representative of the club. Being seen as part of what is presented as essentially a drunken riot is not going to reflect well on the club.

The club want to be seen as a professional outfit, and professional sportsmen have to make the sacrifice, they have to dedicate their life to their craft, especially in time limited careers like football. It's a 10-15 yeah professional career, and professionals should be more dedicated to their careers if they want to be the best.

What does it say about our players if they won't make that sacrifice? That they're not motivated enough, that they don't want to give their all for us?
What does it say about our club when they don't expect or demand that sort of dedication? That we're not professional, that we don't really 'want it'?



With Dickinson's reasoning, there is a certain doubt. Maybe he did fall ill, often gastrointestinal upsets occur several hours after the food that cased them are consumed.

However, calling in sick and being seen to be out and about and not sick, is also subject to disciplinary action in all careers.
 




Rookie

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Its got nothing to do with him being out, its more to do with him calling in sick for training the next day.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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My workplace has a policy that requires anyone who is wearing their uniform or seen as a representative of the company behaves in a way that does not embarrass the company. This is quite common.

No, He wasn't wearing a uniform, but as a professional footballer his connection to the club is public knowledge, any appearance in public will be seen as being representative of the club. Being seen as part of what is presented as essentially a drunken riot is not going to reflect well on the club.

The club want to be seen as a professional outfit, and professional sportsmen have to make the sacrifice, they have to dedicate their life to their craft, especially in time limited careers like football. It's a 10-15 yeah professional career, and professionals should be more dedicated to their careers if they want to be the best.

What does it say about our players if they won't make that sacrifice? That they're not motivated enough, that they don't want to give their all for us?
What does it say about our club when they don't expect or demand that sort of dedication? That we're not professional, that we don't really 'want it'?



With Dickinson's reasoning, there is a certain doubt. Maybe he did fall ill, often gastrointestinal upsets occur several hours after the food that cased them are consumed.

However, calling in sick and being seen to be out and about and not sick, is also subject to disciplinary action in all careers.


He should not have had that dodgy Kebab before going home from the Turkish shop in Little Preston Street.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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What I finding hard to understand on this thread and others is that people who are professional footballer should actually behave different from a mortgage advisor in his late 40's.
 




TonyW

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Nope, not a valid argument between you there.

He is not a piece of office equipment.

He is a young bloke that just happens to be good at football.

Nobody has any right to treat him any differently than he would be if he was in another job.

If we treat footballers like children, they will behave like children.

They deserve a life.

What's the point of earning a fortune, having the potential for pulling any fit bird in sight, and having a great life, if you can't start to enjoy it until you're in your late 30's?

Treat them with respect, cut them some slack regarding nights out early in the week, and I bet you'll get a lot more out of them.

Treat them like shit and........
 




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Acker79

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What's the point of earning a fortune, having the potential for pulling any fit bird in sight, and having a great life, if you can't start to enjoy it until you're in your late 30's?

It's called sacrifice, dedication and professionalism. If you want to be a top professional footballer you have to make these sacrifices and dedicate yourself to your craft.

A footballer doesn't have to wait until his 30s to blow off some steam, just dedicate himself to his career august-may, and use a degree of common sense when it comes to personal time during the season.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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The shame is he had a cracking game against Hartlepool but the management were forced into and right in dropping him for today.
 


Smythe

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You know, I could have sworn they were grown men, getting paid for a job of work.

Why the f*** should Bloom or Hinschlewood, or any other chairman/manager have any right whatsoever to tell them what they can do with their evenings if its not the night before a game.

If your boss tried that with you, you'd tell him to f*** off.

And quite right too.

Why we treat footballers this way is beyond me.
They are young men with pockets full of money.
Let them enjoy spending it, instead of treating them like morons.
You might just see a better work ethic with some give and take.



Wankers with power!!!!!

Not a run of the mill job tho is it....their meant to be pro athletes looking after themselves....i dont think this would really be an issue if they were playing well and winning but there serving up utter shit time and time again and then have the audacity to go out on the piss in front of ppl who are basically helping to pay their wages. So we let them enjoy going out on the piss all the time and continue to play shit??? They chose to be a pro footballer earning good money. If i continued to fail in my job and phone in sick after being out on the piss something would be done about it.
Im my opinion they massivly let Slade down and they should be worrying about how to address that problem
 






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TonyW - "wankers with power"? That might tell us more about the way you have been treated in the past than about the way this guy should be dealt with.

I was very sympathetic with him until I discovered he phoned in sick the next day. That's the issue here. Anyone - and I mean anyone - with an employment contract who fakes a day of work but is still happy to take his pay is stealing. Plain and simple. Of course companies are going to come down hard on that. He got caught - take it on the chin. Apologise and get back on with your job.

As for the "are athletes different"? Of course they are. These guys earn their money because of their physical skills. They are more able to do their (often highly paid) jobs if they are in better physical condition. So of course a club will be concerned about anything that affects their physical ability to do their job. As far as I am aware, Brighton have never banned players from going out, but when a player signs a professional contract, he take the money and also accepts the responsibility that comes with it. If you stop being chippy about 'the wankers' for a minute I think you would be able to see that.
 


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