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[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans



Shuggie

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Sep 19, 2003
670
East Sussex coast
I may be a ninny, and I am certainly no Wittgenstein but I have to pick you up on one point...

In writing: "I have no doubt however that he'd be getting similar rave reviews if his and Clarke's loan deals had been reversed and he had gone to Derby instead" the poster I quoted was making a counter factual assertion not asking a hypothetical question.

Here, you can talk to yourself ...

I have given you an argument, I don't have to provide you with an understanding.
 




rigton70

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Jul 5, 2003
960
You are obviously a massive Bielsa fan.

Which players would you say he has coached from good to great over the course of his career ?

Do you think he is a better coach than Guardiola or Klopp and, if so, why ?

If, as you describe, he is a tactical genius, what makes him unique compared to other coaches in his approach to games ?

I read somewhere that Guardiola said Bielsa is the best manager he has ever seen.

Also said Bielsa knew more about the Barcelona players than he did.

This was when they were both managing in the Spanish league.
 






PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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Hurst Green
I read somewhere that Guardiola said Bielsa is the best manager he has ever seen.

Also said Bielsa knew more about the Barcelona players than he did.

This was when they were both managing in the Spanish league.

Yes but he was hanging over the hedge to see them
 




Dougie

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Jan 11, 2012
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I bet you’re really missing us now.
 
















PILTDOWN MAN

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I bet you’re really missing us now.

Oh Dougie, you can be such a joy, simplicity can be so much easier on the brain. Hows your wantaway gravity defining jokester?
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,484
Had a Leeds fan tell me today that they are currently 7th favourites to win the premier league next season ???

dont doubt it, large city of fevered fans making mug bets and the bookies loving it.
 


R. Slicker

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Jan 1, 2009
4,488
Disappointed with NSC on this thread, quite happy to be condescended to by a Leeds fan because he can use long words.
He's no different to the Helmets on twitter as far as I can see.
 






Danny Wilson Said

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May 2, 2020
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Palookaville
I’m getting rather bored now of winding Leeds fans up, however, just a couple of observations.
They do appear to be a big club- - - - in Leeds.
Like a lot of one club towns and cities, the majority of the football supporting public do support them, but, that’s the same in Newcastle, Sunderland, Portsmouth, and even small places, Burnley, Ipswich, Norwich. This then appears to their local support that they are far more popular country wide than they really are. I know a couple of Leeds fans down here, one is a ‘heritage’ fan, his Dads from Leeds, the other, who actually goes a few times a season, did it to upset his brother who is an armchair Manchester Unitied fan. I know far more supporters, mainly , but not exclusively, armchair fans of the traditional ( now) big 6. Albion, hopefully, will achieve the local support that the other one team cities have, although our rather unique recent history may have had a effect on this.

I also feel Leeds history has led to their fans feeling a bit paranoid, and have circled the wagons, figuratively speaking . Being from the industrial North, there is a lot of football clubs within a very small area, nearly every medium size town , and bigger has a football league club. This has led to each club having a far larger amount of local rivalries, again different from our own experience where our nearest rivals are our only serious opposition.

I , personally, would put Leeds in the bottom end of the second division of the ‘ Big Club ‘ League alongside clubs likes Sunderland, above Portsmouth , but below Newcastle and Forest. Us, I think ,are probably top 3 of the third division with Norwich, and Charlton, but, if things continue the way they are, we might scrape into the second division soon.

Forest? No, I can't see that. No doubt you'll point at their two European Cups in the Clough era, but to me, winning the title is the ultimate achievement and they have only done it once. Leeds have won titles in three different decades and under two different managers. As for Sunderland and Newcastle, their last title wins were both before the second world war. Some Leeds fans may be deluded, but let's not join them.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Shuggie

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Sep 19, 2003
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East Sussex coast
Disappointed with NSC on this thread, quite happy to be condescended to by a Leeds fan because he can use long words.
He's no different to the Helmets on twitter as far as I can see.

I understand what you're saying, RS, but I would cut NSC a bit of slack on this one. It's relatively easy to spot a wrong 'un like the Palace pillocks but KW made a good fist of appearing plausible to start with. We gave him the benefit of the doubt initially but I get the feeling the NSC worm has started to turn. It's up to him whether he lightens up and starts to contribute positively in our back yard or digs his heels in as a polysyllabic bigot. We'll see.
 








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