[Football] Decent Guardian article

[Bold Seagull]

Sure, but you'll be familiar with the newspaper called the Independent which was formed to be free from proprietor influence AND party political bias.

The Guardian uses a different definition of independence and, despite taking the moral highground, offers a myopic view of the world.

Don't recall saying it was the only newspaper that was independent. Not sure why it's the moral highground, it is what it is, as with the Independent, 2 outlets that don't have paywalls, or financed by rich billionaires. There were 3 newspaper outlets that fought against going to war in Iraq in 2003, The Guardian, Independent and the Mirror, the rest of Fleet Street banged their war drums. Hardly myopic.

 

[beorhthelm]

It's a funny term 'blatantly', like it should disguise where it sees it's political position. Independent journalism doesn't prevent the paper from having a preferred political stance. There is a difference between that an outright dogmatic propaganda.

a difference it does not tend to follow. its ownership structure doesnt change that, it's their culture, no reason to deny it.

 

[Bold Seagull]

a difference it does not tend to follow. its ownership structure doesnt change that, it's their culture, no reason to deny it.

Brilliant, talking about independent debate, and you end with that. Very funny. Sticking to what you know, and what you think you know beorhthelm.

 

[McTavish]

Very good read from Paul Hayward in the Telegraph (terrible right-wing rag blah, blah, blah).
I know he is not exactly a disinterested observer* but nice nonetheless...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...kes-trip-memory-lane-display-passion-shocked/

*terrible left-wing rag blah, blah, blah.