Dean Wilkins

[Les Biehn]

Can I just ask where did this idea that MM had no passion come from? I have never seen it.

 

[NS Herald]

If anyone remembers the Wilkins interview after the play off final in 1991, you will understand the passion and emotion he has for our club.

Give the guy a chnace, he has no experience of managing a league team, but he has bought the best out of the youngsters in his charge, half of whom are now in the first team, so he knows their strengths and weaknesses and they know and respect him. But above all, more than any manager I can remember (Catlin apart maybe) he loves the club.

Damm right give the guy a chance. For those that were there Saturday, if the team and supporters continue with half the effort we ALL showed then we will ALL do all right. For God's sake he's only just started and if people want to start questioning him now they should take a reality check....

He is the right man right now so let's ALL get behind him and his team!!!!

 

[Meade's Ball]

Can I just ask where did this idea that MM had no passion come from? I have never seen it.

But what did he appear to have passion for?
Drink and oneupmanship aside.

 

[Munchkin]

Passion and determination won't get us out of this divison though.

New signings and a well respected manager might.

I personally, like the passion that Wilkins shows, but we need a new man if we want to progress, IMO.

 

[Les Biehn]

But what did he appear to have passion for?
Drink and oneupmanship aside.

For the club. He was loyal and attempted to put the club before the players. He had passion for the club, I think people confuse lacklustre performances with the manager not caring.

 

[Meade's Ball]

For the club. He was loyal and attempted to put the club before the players. He had passion for the club, I think people confuse lacklustre performances with the manager not caring.

I felt he put his own reputation and past before the club or players. He's certainly not someone who seemed to accept challenge to his masterful id or pin to his beachball.
I don't reckon him a selfish rotter, but his entire decisions looked heavily built in his limited rhetoric rather than with grace or flamboyance. Seemed very much on his mirrored own.

But i don't know. Just what i thought once that stuck.

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

I have passion for the club but I'd still be a useless manager.

I'm just warey of Wilkins because of Knight's last two internal appointments and like many others have stated, could he bring in some big names?

 

[The Large One]

This lack of experience thing - what was everyone's opinion when Alan Mullery arrived at Brighton in 1976? Just wondering...

 

[veade]

at the end of the day most of players are young and we will not get any players in so he is the best man for the job for atleast the rest of the season he has worked with all our young players he knows what to expect from them it was allot down to him some of the young players came through. BUT when they got into the first team mcghee seemed to make them lose their confidence and play poor

 

[Bluejuice]

His brother is Ray Wilkins, I think it's fair to say he's got a good few contacts in the game.

And besides, McGhee was supposed to have all sorts of contacts (he's certainly been involved at enough clubs over the years) but aside from the inflated Virgo fee Gordon Strachan generously dished out I've seen no evidence to suggest McGhee had dipped into his little black book to call in any favours with regards new players.

The fact we'd always fail to get anyone in on deadline day was entirely irksome and I don't see how somebody new can do a much worse job at attracting fresh faces than McGhee. Not that I'm blaming him entirely, as I accept the situation at our club makes the task very difficult, but I can't see that McGhee's record in the transfer market is something we'll miss.

Was it not Hinshelwood who attracted the crocked Paul Kitson to the club? At the time I remember thinking what a big name he was and how well we'd done to attract him. Of course it turns out we were probably the only club prepared to take a gamble on someone who's career was clearly over, but Hinsh still brought him in nonetheless and if it's calibre of player that you choose to judge the manager by, then surely this shows up the idea that an inexperienced manager will have less chance of bringing in quality players.

Everyone moaned that the McClaren appointment as England manager was a bad idea, promoting from within, but he doesn't seem to have done too bad a job so far and the players have all come out in support of him. We have a similar situation here with the players having been quoted that the team spirit and bond is back amongst all at the club and why shouldn't Wilkins' success with the youngsters translate to the senior team?

I give him my full support and if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. But there's no way we want to lose someone of his quality, he is an asset to the club

 

[Uncle Buck]

This lack of experience thing - what was everyone's opinion when Alan Mullery arrived at Brighton in 1976? Just wondering...

It is not so much the lack of expierence, it is more the internal appointment thing that probably concerns the club and some of us. Simply due to the fact that the last 2 internal appointments have gone a bit wrong, but third time lucky, maybe.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

His brother is Ray Wilkins, I think it's fair to say he's got a good few contacts in the game.

And besides, McGhee was supposed to have all sorts of contacts (he's certainly been involved at enough clubs over the years) but aside from the inflated Virgo fee Gordon Strachan generously dished out I've seen no evidence to suggest McGhee had dipped into his little black book to call in any favours with regards new players.

The fact we'd always fail to get anyone in on deadline day was entirely irksome and I don't see how somebody new can do a much worse job at attracting fresh faces than McGhee. Not that I'm blaming him entirely, as I accept the situation at our club makes the task very difficult, but I can't see that McGhee's record in the transfer market is something we'll miss.

Was it not Hinshelwood who attracted the crocked Paul Kitson to the club? At the time I remember thinking what a big name he was and how well we'd done to attract him. Of course it turns out we were probably the only club prepared to take a gamble on someone who's career was clearly over, but Hinsh still brought him in nonetheless and if it's calibre of player that you choose to judge the manager by, then surely this shows up the idea that an inexperienced manager will have less chance of bringing in quality players.

Everyone moaned that the McClaren appointment as England manager was a bad idea, promoting from within, but he doesn't seem to have done too bad a job so far and the players have all come out in support of him. We have a similar situation here with the players having been quoted that the team spirit and bond is back amongst all at the club and why shouldn't Wilkins' success with the youngsters translate to the senior team?

I give him my full support and if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. But there's no way we want to lose someone of his quality, he is an asset to the club

 

[Ernest]

This lack of experience thing - what was everyone's opinion when Alan Mullery arrived at Brighton in 1976? Just wondering...

Had an experienced number 2, had a squad packed full of experience and quality and most importantly had a chairman with pots of money and finally Mullery was a massive name in football as a former England international etc and thus was able to persuade any number of quality players to hop on the bandwagon.
I don't think it's fair to compare what Wilkins has/is now to what Mullery had do you ?

 

[London Irish]

This lack of experience thing - what was everyone's opinion when Alan Mullery arrived at Brighton in 1976? Just wondering...

We all know it could possibly work, it's the odds of it working that is currently exercising a lot of thought. Mullery had a lot of money to spend, Wilkins will have next to nothing.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Was it not Hinshelwood who attracted the crocked Paul Kitson to the club? At the time I remember thinking what a big name he was and how well we'd done to attract him. Of course it turns out we were probably the only club prepared to take a gamble on someone who's career was clearly over, but Hinsh still brought him in nonetheless and if it's calibre of player that you choose to judge the manager by, then surely this shows up the idea that an inexperienced manager will have less chance of bringing in quality players.

You contradict yourself here. How can Paul Kitson have been both a quality player and a man whose career was clearly over at the same time.

 

[London Irish]

BUT when they got into the first team mcghee seemed to make them lose their confidence and play poor

Yeah, I guess if Wilkins had got hold of Virgo earlier, we'd have sold him for £5 million.

 

[London Irish]

Everyone moaned that the McClaren appointment as England manager was a bad idea, promoting from within, but he doesn't seem to have done too bad a job so far and the players have all come out in support of him. We have a similar situation here with the players having been quoted that the team spirit and bond is back amongst all at the club and why shouldn't Wilkins' success with the youngsters translate to the senior team?

That's probably a fair parallel, if a double-edged one

 

[veade]

Yeah, I guess if Wilkins had got hold of Virgo earlier, we'd have sold him for £5 million.

we all have some luck

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

Had an experienced number 2, had a squad packed full of experience and quality and most importantly had a chairman with pots of money and finally Mullery was a massive name in football as a former England international etc and thus was able to persuade any number of quality players to hop on the bandwagon.
I don't think it's fair to compare what Wilkins has/is now to what Mullery had do you ?

I almost passed out with shock when I read this. After 5000+ posts, Ernest, congratulations on finally posting something serious. You've even (partially) punctuated it! Wonders will never cease.

On the Wilkins/McGhee differences, Kuipers is quoted as saying in one of the post-match interviews that the exhuberant celebrations both of the goal and post-match, indicate that the team has 'rediscovered' its spirit and bond. This is an interesting use of the word. I appreciate that, given their history, Kuipers may have a personal agenda and be having a dig at MM here, but the use of the word by definition means it had been lost previously. I can't believe that came about just from three defeats, so maybe there was a deeper malaise to sort out there.

 

[NS Herald]

Yeah, I guess if Wilkins had got hold of Virgo earlier, we'd have sold him for £5 million.

And if he was appointed a couple of weeks earlier we may have kept CKR thereby a) 'giving' us an extra striker who b) Wilkins 'might' have got more out of and c) could have sold him if necessary for a bit more than 150k

Still life is full of what's and if's but for the time being he get's my vote