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Dean Wilkins

how long

  • 1 Year

    Votes: 28 22.8%
  • 2 Years

    Votes: 68 55.3%
  • Longer

    Votes: 17 13.8%
  • Another Manager

    Votes: 10 8.1%

  • Total voters
    123


Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
The Complete Badger said:
We were away from home at the team in 6th place and came away with a point. Shut up.

Did i say it wasn't a good result?

I said i'm not that fussed about Wilkins style. Which i'm not.

In games like these, I'd rather go for a win and lose than go for a draw and draw. It's not like there's that much at stake is it!!
 




Hiney

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Jul 5, 2003
19,398
Wadebridge, Cornwall
Withdean Wanderer said:
It's not like there's that much at stake is it!!

To be fair, there's LOADS at stake in all these games.

If he had, say, put on an extra striker and we had lost 3-0, he and the players would have been SLAUGHTERED.

There would have been a PROCESSION of 'experts' queuing up to suggest that Wilkins would have been better to have played safe and protected a valuable point at a top-6 team.

It is incredibly naive to think we can play some sort of Keegan-esque style of football and either win or lose 6-5 - it just doesn't work these days and managers can't afford to be cavalier in their approach.
 


Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
Hiney said:
To be fair, there's LOADS at stake in all these games.

If he had, say, put on an extra striker and we had lost 3-0, he and the players would have been SLAUGHTERED.

There would have been a PROCESSION of 'experts' queuing up to suggest that Wilkins would have been better to have played safe and protected a valuable point at a top-6 team.

It is incredibly naive to think we can play some sort of Keegan-esque style of football and either win or lose 6-5 - it just doesn't work these days and managers can't afford to be cavalier in their approach.

I'm not saying we should have gone to some sort of radical tactic with 3 up front and everyone attacking when they were all over us, but a slightly more positive tactic would have been nice. I wasn't there, so can't give a decent opinion, but it sounded like we played out the second half with little intention of doing anything other than stopping them scoring. I pay money to watch an entertaining football team that tries to win games, and not draw them.

Good result - yes. In a style i like? No. But there's not a lot i can do about it! :)
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,994
The Complete Badger said:
You always find something to moan about. It's tedious. A 0-0 draw at Blackpool is a good result, however you want to try and play it down.

I said to another Brighton fan at work today before kick off I would take a draw as a good result for us and he agreed, Thats 2 good away draws in a row now.
 






Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
British Bulldog said:
I said to another Brighton fan at work today before kick off I would take a draw as a good result for us and he agreed, Thats 2 good away draws in a row now.

And i'd agree with that too....:thumbsup:
 


Barrel of Fun

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Hiney said:
To be fair, there's LOADS at stake in all these games.

If he had, say, put on an extra striker and we had lost 3-0, he and the players would have been SLAUGHTERED.

There would have been a PROCESSION of 'experts' queuing up to suggest that Wilkins would have been better to have played safe and protected a valuable point at a top-6 team.

It is incredibly naive to think we can play some sort of Keegan-esque style of football and either win or lose 6-5 - it just doesn't work these days and managers can't afford to be cavalier in their approach.
Indeed. We are not safe yet and it would be foolish to attempt to play sexy football, when the youngsters play off confidence and a run of three defeast could drag us right back into the relegation scrap.
 


Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
The Complete Badger said:
Indeed. Bear in mind Blackpool were in the bottom 4 when they beat us at Withdean in October, that shows how impressive their form has been recently to lift them into the top 6. Still, some people aren't happy unless they are criticising draws away to in-form teams. Imagine what he could have moaned about if we had WON:ohmy:

Don't be a twat. I wouldn't have even mentioned it if i wasn't asked by Bof to clarify why i 'don't like Wilkins'. It was just an example - i would rather have a 'Keegan style' manager. That's my preference. But we haven't got one, so i'll have to put up with Wilkins!

I'm not moaning about the result, i'm not moaning about the performance - hell, i wasn't even at the game. I'm just speculating as to the TYPE of manager i'd like - one who was a bit bolder with substitions. That doesn't mean that Wilkins didn't make the RIGHT substition for us on the whole.
 


Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
The Complete Badger said:
So when has he made a substitution that has cost us points?

It's all very well making up arguments that sound good on here, but I know you, and I know you made your mind up that you didn't like Wilkins the very day he got the job!

That's not the issue i'm talking about. I'm saying his substitutions haven't CHANGED anything in the games i've seen (except the Forest match - see my original post). They aren't bold substitutions, they seem to tweak this slightly, but not to any great extent. If you were to look at every post i've made after games under Wilkins, you'd see me question the substitutions on several occasions.

As long as we don't 'f*** up' the subs, then i'm happy, just not overjoyed!

:)
 




Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
Hiney said:
So they HAVE changed games then?

You could argue that today's substitution DID change the game in that it prevented us from going behind after some massive PRESSURE from Blackpool.

1) What's your point? I've said that already, twice. Yes, he's changed things positively once, but even then we largely relied on Tyson's sending off.

2) You could, but from the commentary i heard we still remained under pressure in the closing stages, the Arsenal boy barely touched the ball, and Flinders kept us in it.

Why are you so hell bent on arguing with me when i'm not even trying to argue - i'm just saying what my opinion is, that i "am not fussed" by Wilkins, and have given MY reasons for it. That's how i see things. Like it or lump it. :thumbsup:
 






Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
Barrel of Fun said:
To be fair to Wilkins, we do not, generally, have a match changing bench.

It is a funny old game and one single touch from a sub can either lose us the game or divert the danger.

Fair point that :thumbsup:

But if he's going to name subs, you'd hope he's got the 'balls' to use them appropriately
 




Barrel of Fun

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Withdean Wanderer said:
Fair point that :thumbsup:

But if he's going to name subs, you'd hope he's got the 'balls' to use them appropriately

True, but who says he is not using them appropriately. Using the Blackpool game as an example, if his aim was not to lose the game today, rather than sneak awin, but risk losing, then it worked a treat,

I think I may be cutting it a bit fine here. :lol:
 
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Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Withdean Wanderer said:
1) What's your point? I've said that already, twice. Yes, he's changed things positively once, but even then we largely relied on Tyson's sending off.

2) You could, but from the commentary i heard we still remained under pressure in the closing stages, the Arsenal boy barely touched the ball, and Flinders kept us in it.

Why are you so hell bent on arguing with me when i'm not even trying to argue - i'm just saying what my opinion is, that i "am not fussed" by Wilkins, and have given MY reasons for it. That's how i see things. Like it or lump it. :thumbsup:

This is Nsc. You're not allowed to have a different point of view. ;)
 


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