David Haye V Dereck Chisora 14th July

[Beach Hut]

Surprised Warren has done this but maybe he is on his way out of boxing so one last hurrah

 

[BHAWise]

I cant see that this fight will happen. Before fight night Chisora will loose his cool in either a press confrence or the weigh in and we will see another roll around. If wrong I hope Haye gets a hiding and we hear lame excuses again

 

[BUTTERBALL]

Should be a good one - a true grudge match. Next week Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran......

 

[BHA Swiifty]

Would be great IF it happened, like Wise said something is bound to happen at the weigh in.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Warren now might lose his licence BBC Sport - Haye-Chisora: British boxing board

The BBBC are powerless to stop the fight under EU law, no-one is breaking a law and it's just the BBBC throwing the toys out of the pram as their authority has been bought into question. The simple fact is the BBBC are a service provider not a government appointed body, they can threaten all they want, the lawyers will have a field day if it ever gets to court making them look even more stupid in the process. They even said at a hearing that Chisora was free to apply for a licence in another country, exactly what he has done.

 

[Lenny Rider]

20,000 tickets sold to date, who was it said "You can fool some of the people, some of the time"?

 

[Ernest]

20,000 tickets sold to date, who was it said "You can fool some of the people, some of the time"?

In 2 days ? , I take that with a large pinch of salt

 

[piersa]

let them pound the shit out of each other.

 

[big nuts]

20,000 tickets sold to date, who was it said "You can fool some of the people, some of the time"?

As much as I resent the two boxers cashing in on their poor behaviour, I will tune in as it should be an exciting fight as long as Chisora is in shape. Chisora for all his behavioural shortcomings isn't an Audley Harrison and he will take the fight to Haye and test him severely. He gave Klitschko a run for his money and a fight with Haye will not phase him. Whilst I think Haye will win he might have to get of the floor himself to do so.

The biggest disgrace in all this is that these two dickheads will probably make as much if not more than Carl Froch will make against Lucien Bute a genuine World title fight with two World class fighters.

 

[Varndean VI Form College]

f***ing sad. Joe Louis et al spin in their graves...

 

[big nuts]

f***ing sad. Joe Louis et al spin in their graves...

Rocky Balboa couldn't get a license to box Ivan Drago in 1985 but he went about it like a true warrior. Fought for no purse in Moscow on Christmas Day and his missus was screwing back home - I wonder if Chisora considered about doing something similar. Maybe Luxembourg on Fathers day.

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

i think too much is beng made of the handbags in munich,actually in parts i thought it was quite funny,espcially when chisora repeatedly taunted haye about his toe

there's been a few roll arounds before with other boxers, and even the greatest wasn't called the "louisville lip" for nothing,behaviour like that would probably be frowned on these days,alot of fuss about nothing

 

[Lenny Rider]

In 2 days ? , I take that with a large pinch of salt

BBC website

 

[Crackpot]

The biggest punch up will no doubt be between Millwall characters (Haye is on record as being a huge Wall supporter,and had many sarf Londoners supporting him in Hamburg) who will delight at invading east London,and specifically Upton Park,for this,and those that oppose them,rather than the cheesy manufactured bout itself. Anyone who has been to a big London fight knows these do's bring out characters that most of us never see ouside of television hard-men dramas. The south London v east London sideshow might overwhelm the main event.

 

[churley1]

If any of you fancy giving Haye a pre-fight slap, he'll be in attendance at Selhurst soon for our International Boxing night.

 

[Oscar]

What a farce. And who in their right mind would pay money to watch these two idiots?

I honestly believe the original spat and handbags between these two was staged anyway. Boxing really is in a bad way.

 

[rouseytastic]

That has really come out of the British authorities making a bit of a pigs ear of the whole thing. Rather than dishing out a fine and a ban, they seemed to be waiting for the Police in Germany to press charges, but that never happened, so Chisora was left in limbo by the British. He wasn't banned, he had his British license revoked, BUT was told he could re-apply here or anywhere else he chose for a boxing license.

I'm sure that if they had fined him, and given him a 6 month ban (or even 9) he would have stuck to that, and fought after the time was up. While I think the actions between Chisora were ugly, I also think they were orchastrated, and the British Boxing Board of Control, simply made a hash of dealing with it.

Having said all that, I have minimal interest in watching the fight, but not because of whether I like or dislike the personalities.

Edit: Tch, I've already gone from zero interest to minimal. That's what boxing does to me, I dismiss a fight and then it slowly eats away at me. By the time it comes round, I'll be on the edge of my seat.

Spot on post. In answer to the original question, yes this is a dark day for British boxing but only because it shows what a cock up they've made of the whole fine/punishment thing.
Personally looking forward to this fight and hope Haye irons him out. While Haye has not covered himself in glory recently Chisora is a horrendous bloke who thinks he's some sort of massive gangster. Winds me up.
Looking forward to good old fashioned brawl. Should be good

 

[Ernest]

Looks like Frank Warren has done his homework and made the BBBofC look a bit stupid

Dear Mr Smith,


I refer to the press release which you issued earlier this week in which you state that any member of the British Boxing Board of Control who participates in the Haye v. Chisora fight “will be deemed to have terminated” both his membership of your Board and his licence. As you know I am Dereck Chisora’s manager and even if I am not at the fight I will be ‘participating’ in accordance with your definition of this word in the press release.


I write to make two complaints about your press release. The first is that there are no substantive grounds to revoke my licence and the second is that you have not properly complied with any procedural requirements.


Substantive Grounds
Under Rule 4.12 of your own Rules and Regulations, as a licence holder I can participate “(a) in or at a Promotion which is licensed by the BBBofC; or (b) in or at a Promotion organised by a Federation, Commission, Association or Controlling Authority affiliated to, or recognised by the BBBofC”. The Federation Luxembourgoise De Boxe is a Federation affiliated to and recognised by the Board; both are affiliated to the EBU. As that Federation is sanctioning the Haye v. Chisora fight, my participation is not a breach of your Rules.


You have not communicated your complaint to me at all, but in the press statement your concern appears to be that a member who participates in the Haye v. Chisora fight would “bring the sport of boxing into disrepute”. As I say, were the Board to really consider that I was bringing the sport into disrepute then I would expect you to have set out the charges against me by letter and with a level of particularity.


I cannot see how I can be bringing boxing into disrepute for the following reasons (which list is not exhaustive):


* It cannot be because the fight is unlicensed, because it is licensed by a Federation older than the Board, affiliated to the EBU and which has the same medical provisions, testing, safety provisions and insurance as the Board;


* It cannot be because David Haye is fighting and is not licensed by the Board. If this were the case, you would object to almost every fight taking place overseas. Indeed, I note that the Board has not complained that the WBA is bringing the sport into disrepute, despite that organisation licensing Mayweather’s fight even though he has a conviction for domestic violence;


* It cannot be because Dereck Chisora is not licensed by the Board, for the reasons above. Also, if the Board did consider that Mr Chisora should not fight again, it would have banned him for life. Instead it withdrew his licence but invited him to apply for a licence with the Board or with another sanctioning body when he wished to do so;


* It cannot be because of safety reasons. Not just because the Federation has the same procedures as the Board, but also because the Board took no sanction against Promoter Barry Hearn after he ignored the Board’s refusal to grant Julian Jackson a licence to fight in the UK against Herol Graham and staged the fight in Spain. Indeed, the Board supplied officials for that fight and gained financially. Further, whilst the Board has been found guilty of negligence (in relation to Michael Watson), the Federation has had no such decisions against it;


*It cannot be because there is a fight sanctioned in the UK by the Luxembourg Federation. This is because the Board has licensed fights in other jurisdictions, as have many other Federations and Associations and because of the principle of free trade across Europe.


Procedural Grounds
If in fact you really did consider that I, a licensee, is guilty of misconduct because of my ‘participation’ in the Haye v. Chisora fight, then you need still to comply with Rule 25. The Board would need to send me a formal complaint and require me to answer it and attend before the Board. You have not done so.


My Complaint
My concern is that by issuing the threat contained in your press release you are trying to stop me from being involved in a legitimate and lawful fight governed by another Federation and to interfere with my freedom to work and to earn a living. I am worried that you have taken this decision not because you are really concerned about the fight (for the reasons I set out above) but because you are fearful that you will lose your monopoly in the UK.


I require written confirmation that you will not seek to take away my licence if I remain Dereck Chisora’s manager. As you have catapulted this issue into the press, then I consider it is reasonable for me to seek your confirmation by close of business on Wednesday 16 May 2012. If I do not receive your confirmation then you will receive a formal complaint from my solicitors followed by proceedings (including injunctive relief should they consider it necessary and appropriate). Of course there may well be issues of costs and damages associated with your actions and I put you on notice that I will be seeking these also if so advised.


I look forward to hearing from you.


Kind Regards,

Frank

 

[Dunk]

It was all set up from the word go. Why would Haye even be at that press conference? Good fun and a decent attempt to resurrect some interest in British Boxing. Haye to win in 6.