Cyclists with helmet cam.

[alan partridge]

I read all the posts before watching the video and was kind of expecting the cyclist to be giving as good as he got from the way some people were talking about it.


Not sure how you can excuse that complete fuckwit's reaction to someone 'bangin on my van'.

 

[Superphil]

not having a pop at you or cheap bikes, cheap bikes have served me well, the point i'm making is please dont refer to the dumb arse riding his pile of shit the wrong way up St James steet during rush hour after six cans o Special Brew as 'a cyclist'

What about someone doing this sober in the rush hour with his Berghaus Laptop Backpack and iPod in his ears?

 

[sten_super]

not having a pop at you or cheap bikes, cheap bikes have served me well, the point i'm making is please dont refer to the dumb arse riding his pile of shit the wrong way up St James steet during rush hour after six cans o Special Brew as 'a cyclist'

But neither can you succintly draw the line between those that behave and those that don't by claiming one is a cyclist and one isn't, purely based on behaviour.

While it's undoubtedly true that there are a lot of drivers that are eejits and put cyclists into dangerous situations, I would echo the comments of others earlier in the thread and say that cyclists have to be aware that, however in the wrong the other person may be, it is the cyclist that is in danger, and they should react accordingly. If that means having to break to let a van overtake you then so be it.

 

[adrian29uk]

I drive, I cycle, I walk. I am really getting sick and tired of hearing the same old shite from drivers, get road tax. I would be prepared to pay road tax along with the road tax I already pay , provided they put more cycle lanes in place and get some of the ignorant idiots off the road.

Out of walking, driving and cycling I have received the most verbal abuse as a cyclist and each time the driver was at fault. That does not include the time someone decided to kick me off my bike for no apparent reason.

On top of this, there are times you just can use the road, so you use the pavement briefly. You get shouted at for coming on the pavement, and then you get shouted at for being on the road, where the hell are you meant to go.

 

[Badger]

BBC News - Cyclist v motorist: A heated debate
The follow up debate.

You can't help noticing that the slightly PLUMP man is on the side of the motorists, I wonder when he last got on a bike...

 

[Stat Brother]

To do his cycling proficiency, at which point his gigantic arse must have enveloped the whole bike.

 

[bhaexpress]

c'mon bhaexpress, I know we haven't always seen eye to eye but you're an Albion fan I love you really but please read post number 11. BTW I'm a 'cyclist' but I am also a driver and a pedestrian at times

In all honesty in Central London I find cyclists a far greater hazard than any other mode of transport thanks to the ones who use the pavement and ignore traffic signals, something that cars, vans and buses don't tend to do. I might add that I live down a narrow lane which is a regular route for weekend cycle clubs. Once again they seem to feel that riding three abreast is okay and very rarely do they get out of the way for motorists or horse riders. You see why I don't have much sympathy.

 

[Stat Brother]

In all honesty in Central London I find cyclists a far greater hazard than any other mode of transport thanks to the ones who use the pavement and ignore traffic signals, something that cars, vans and buses don't tend to do. I might add that I live down a narrow lane which is a regular route for weekend cycle clubs. Once again they seem to feel that riding three abreast is okay and very rarely do they get out of the way for motorists or horse riders. You see why I don't have much sympathy.

That'll be London Dynamo then!.
A truly funny point, on another forum!.

 

[Biscuit]

If every cyclist in London had one it'd be a great way of cutting down on crime!

 

[bhaexpress]

I drive, I cycle, I walk. I am really getting sick and tired of hearing the same old shite from drivers, get road tax. I would be prepared to pay road tax along with the road tax I already pay , provided they put more cycle lanes in place and get some of the ignorant idiots off the road.

Out of walking, driving and cycling I have received the most verbal abuse as a cyclist and each time the driver was at fault. That does not include the time someone decided to kick me off my bike for no apparent reason.

On top of this, there are times you just can use the road, so you use the pavement briefly. You get shouted at for coming on the pavement, and then you get shouted at for being on the road, where the hell are you meant to go.

Well for a start the law expects you to stay on the road. Why don't you take down the registration numbers of motorists who abuse you ? Pity I can't do the same with cyclists. Also, the road tax is one thing, how about third party insurance ?

 

[Biscuit]

how about third party insurance ?

Yeah, a bike is going to cause the same amount of damage that a car can do...

 

[Rowdey]

I'm a van driver and a motorcyclist, and often thought i would be a good idea to get a dash/helmet cam (as per the norm in USA i believe?) to catch dickhead cyclists chopping me up at lights, 'rubbish throwers' and other general arsehole behaviour. Nick em all i say.

 

[perseus]

Cyclists had a death wish. No good being right if you are squashed dead!

75% of motorists mowing down cyclists occur at junctions. Beware!

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

I am amazed how calm the cyclist stays, most people would have had a fist fight. The van driver needs some anger management sessions.

The few times I have cycled in London recentky always scares me, lots of the traffic (bikes, vans, lorrys etc) all drive as if dinners burning in the oven..

 

[Stat Brother]

That's my thing with the cam, in that situation.
Go out looking for the confrontation, and then be all 'Vanessa Victim' when you find an angry white van man.

 

[WATFORD zero]

This isn't about cyclists or motorists, it's about acting like an arse. The cyclist was a bit of an arse screaming and banging the van when the sensible thing would be accept that drivers make mistakes and slow down.

The van driver is also an arse (probably a bigger one), stopping his van, jumping out and threatening him.

I really can't understand why people get so possessive over 6 foot of tarmac.

Surely, the moral of this story is don't act like an arse

 

[Acker79]

Out of walking, driving and cycling I have received the most verbal abuse as a cyclist and each time the driver was at fault. That does not include the time someone decided to kick me off my bike for no apparent reason.

Were you cycling along the promenade in no danger of hitting some guy's kid?

In all honesty in Central London I find cyclists a far greater hazard than any other mode of transport thanks to the ones who use the pavement and ignore traffic signals, something that cars, vans and buses don't tend to do.

You must have better than average drivers in london, because in brighton I see drivers going through red lights all the time, particularly at busy junctions where they try to beat the light and quite obviously fail (such as the cars coming down coombe road onto lewes road, down hove street onto the see front road, round the level etc.

I'm not saying cyclists don't, they do, far too much, and I say that as a cyclist who finds it frustrating when other cyclists ignore red lights etc. but to paint drivers as law abiding angels to a man is just wrong.

Well for a start the law expects you to stay on the road.

I guess you missed this post:

Not a rule of the road. I am not having a go at you but it is worth pointing this out as it is a popular misconception.

Highway Code rule 61

Cycle Routes and Other Facilities. Use cycle routes, advanced stop lines, cycle boxes and toucan crossings unless at the time it is unsafe to do so. Use of these facilities is not compulsory and will depend on your experience and skills, but they can make your journey safer.

 

[Simster]

This isn't about cyclists or motorists, it's about acting like an arse. The cyclist was a bit of an arse screaming and banging the van when the sensible thing would be accept that drivers make mistakes and slow down.

The van driver is also an arse (probably a bigger one), stopping his van, jumping out and threatening him.

I really can't understand why people get so possessive over 6 foot of tarmac.

Surely, the moral of this story is don't act like an arse

To be fair, I think banging on the side of a van is far more understandable when in fear of your life - it really is very scary being cut up by a large vehicle. That fat thug certainly seemed completely unaware, and got what he deserved - a fine of several hundred pounds.

I genuinely believe that people who drive everywhere don't fully appreciate what a killing machine they're in control of. Certainly some cyclists are guilty of not paying full attention to the rules of the highway BUT the difference is that most of the time they aren't putting lives at stake by jumping a red light. If they were, then maybe pedestrians would feel the need to do exactly what bhaexpress suggests, and put cameras on themselves.

 

[Garage_Doors]

Out of walking, driving and cycling I have received the most verbal abuse as a cyclist and each time the driver was at fault.

So we deduce that when your riding a cycle your never in the wrong ?

there are times you just can use the road, so you use the pavement briefly. You get shouted at for coming on the pavement,

I assume you dismount when you go onto the pavement, nothing more annoying or dangerous is there than cyclist riding on a designated walkway

 

[WATFORD zero]

Don't get me wrong, White van man was a twat and got what he deserved but looking at the video, if it was me in that situation, i would have slowed down rather than trying to keep up with the Van and get past it. I rather suspect that the cyclist was trying to make a point (as Stat Brother pointed out above).

Even if the cyclist had been in a car and had been cut up by the van, trying to keep up with it on the inside was not a good idea.