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Se20

Banned
Oct 3, 2012
3,981
It doesn't matter how you try and dress it up - headband is correct. Would have great respect for your Club if they paid back what they owe - or are you a separate club now and severed all ties with your former self?

Morning Major
You having great respect for our club ? I very much doubt it !
As you previously have stated, our club has only been in existence since 2010, so why should the current owners pay for previous owners mistakes ?
Chin up.
 




fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,166
Brighton
Here we go again ....
The two people responsible for the administrations are Mr Goldberg and Mr Jordan,through sheer mis management and being out of their depth.
The people who saved us are the current owners, without whom the club would have ceased to be a league member.
It never ceases to amaze me that when we get the upper hand ( which is quite often) the A word gets mentioned.
As an aside, Goldberg was drinking in the same London Bridge pub as us prior to the Wembley game, still a big Palace fan, who got royally shafted by Noades.

Oh so that makes everything OK then does it, two incompetent owners allows you as a club to get away with stealing money from local businesses, banks, loan companies and the tax payer.?
Saying these guys were incompetent makes everything OK and every Palace fan can walk around holding their heads up high knowing the their club are basically thieves.
It never fails to amaze you that this gets mentioned when your club continues, as you keep telling us, for 30 years in the top division because of this. And this amazes' you that you get this from fans of a club who have suffered terribly, because we have never taken the thieves route? Well then old boy be amazed.
I would have much preferred you as a club, had gone the Chester and Maidstone route.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Oh so that makes everything OK then does it, two incompetent owners allows you as a club to get away with stealing money from local businesses, banks, loan companies and the tax payer.?
Saying these guys were incompetent makes everything OK and every Palace fan can walk around holding their heads up high knowing the their club are basically thieves.
It never fails to amaze you that this gets mentioned when your club continues, as you keep telling us, for 30 years in the top division because of this. And this amazes' you that you get this from fans of a club who have suffered terribly, because we have never taken the thieves route? Well then old boy be amazed.
I would have much preferred you as a club, had gone the Chester and Maidstone route.

Great post.
 


Se20

Banned
Oct 3, 2012
3,981
Oh so that makes everything OK then does it, two incompetent owners allows you as a club to get away with stealing money from local businesses, banks, loan companies and the tax payer.?
Saying these guys were incompetent makes everything OK and every Palace fan can walk around holding their heads up high knowing the their club are basically thieves.
It never fails to amaze you that this gets mentioned when your club continues, as you keep telling us, for 30 years in the top division because of this. And this amazes' you that you get this from fans of a club who have suffered terribly, because we have never taken the thieves route? Well then old boy be amazed.
I would have much preferred you as a club, had gone the Chester and Maidstone route.

So if that's the case, should Bloom pay back the local businesses that accepted a percentage of monies owed by Archer back in the day ?
Do you Brighton fans blame the club or Archer for this treatment to local companies ?
 


fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,166
Brighton
So if that's the case, should Bloom pay back the local businesses that accepted a percentage of monies owed by Archer back in the day ?
Do you Brighton fans blame the club or Archer for this treatment to local companies ?

Show me anywhere that Archer never paid the debts the club owed please. I would love to see these documents. He sold the ground to pay these debts, are you saying that he kept that money for himself. I will forward your claim in that case to him and see his response. I think you are saying Mr Archer is a thief?
 




Finchley Seagull

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2004
6,916
North London
So if that's the case, should Bloom pay back the local businesses that accepted a percentage of monies owed by Archer back in the day ?
Do you Brighton fans blame the club or Archer for this treatment to local companies ?

I don't understand how Palace fans don't get it. We suffered for years through what happened with Archer. He didn't take money from local businesses. You benefited as a club from not paying back debts by being able to sign players who you clearly couldn't afford and thus were able to keep your position in the Championship. Hardly comparable, are they?
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Show me anywhere that Archer never paid the debts the club owed please. I would love to see these documents. He sold the ground to pay these debts are you saying that he kept that money for himself. I will forward your claim in that case to him and see his response.

As we had to wait so long getting planning permission for a new ground, we had to pay Capital Gains tax on the sale of the Goldstone, which was why the 1.5 million for Virgo was needed so badly.
 


Se20

Banned
Oct 3, 2012
3,981
Show me anywhere that Archer never paid the debts the club owed please. I would love to see these documents. He sold the ground to pay these debts are you saying that he kept that money for himself. I will forward your claim in that case to him and see his response.

I'm not saying he didn't pay the debts, he paid a percentage to the businesses, which they agreed to.
I'm just trying to bring to your attention that your club hasn't got a whiter then white history were debts are concerned.
It's hardly a secret, but lots of you tend to forget it.
 




fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,166
Brighton
As we had to wait so long getting planning permission for a new ground, we had to pay Capital Gains tax on the sale of the Goldstone, which was why the 1.5 million for Virgo was needed so badly.

I still believe in the end all our debts have been paid from those bad times. This is just another way of Palace feeling better about their club taking their creditors to the cleaners. It helps them when they think others have done the same dirty deed.
 
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fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,166
Brighton
I'm not saying he didn't pay the debts, he paid a percentage to the businesses, which they agreed to.
I'm just trying to bring to your attention that your club hasn't got a whiter then white history were debts are concerned.
It's hardly a secret, but lots of you tend to forget it.

Please show me where this has been written. I as a Brighton fan of long standing have never seen this claim of yours.

Here is the proof of your debts http://195.171.95.190/portal/ice/finalReports/2862010141671.pdf
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I still believe in the end all our debts have been paid from those bad times. This is just another way of Palace feeling better about their club taking their creditors to the cleaners. It helps them when they think others have done the same dirty deed.

Judging other teams by their own standards. They can include Leeds, Leicester & Swindon but not us.
 




fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,166
Brighton
Judging other teams by their own standards. They can include Leeds, Leicester & Swindon but not us.

If they want an example of a club going into admin and then paying all creditors in full, then Southampton are the honourable example.
So it can be done when a club comes into money at a later date.
 


5 Zero

New member
Jul 13, 2011
1,174
Looking forward to not having the stress of playing palace next season, hopefully will mean fully focus on the really important job of pushing for an auto spot.

Automatic promotion? LMFAO. Your be midtable dross next year at best.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
If they want an example of a club going into admin and then paying all creditors in full, then Southampton are the honourable example.
So it can be done when a club comes into money at a later date.

Exactly. All credit to the Saints for that. Se20 has also conveniently forgotten that Tony Bloom took over from Dick Knight not Archer.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
If the albion had not paid their debts in the Archer era, they would have been liquidated by the courts. There was no administration process.

The albion wasn't liquidated, and so to claim there are any still to be paid debts from this era is simply insane.
 










Se20

Banned
Oct 3, 2012
3,981
I have supported this club since I was 12 and I am now 69 years old. How much older do these fans have to be to back up your non proof argument.

So because you haven't heard of it, it didn't happen ?
 




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