[Help] "Crate Training" a puppy

[B-right-on]

Yeah less than £2k for a puppy is currently a bargain. Even kittens are going for £500+.

Blimey. Bought our Cockerpoo Jan last year for £600 which was the going rate then for one from a decent breeders. That's just ridiculous.

Crate training lasted 1 night in daughters room, she got him out on the second night and pretty much stayed on her bed since. I'm not fussed about him on our beds, he's part of the family.

Used the puppy training pads (flat nappy things) to toilet train him. They were great. He soon got used to peeing on them and we just shifted the closer to the back door then outside and he went out from then on.

Was always a cat person and a bit meh on dogs, but when my 14 year old moggie passed, went for a dog under pressure from wife and daughter. Now I love him, amazing how many other dog owners stop and chat. Didn't realise it was a whole subculture.

 

[zefarelly]

Is Rocco a Patterdale? We have an eight year old broken haired beauty called Belle. She is a Nutall from a working family. Fantastic dog. Crated for first few years.

He's allegedly Patterdale, but a bit tall, short haired, stubborn, determined and a lovely dog, a very good size too. He's nearly 6 and people still think he's a labrador puppy. He's good at football, and can head better than most current BHA players.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Blimey. Bought our Cockerpoo Jan last year for £600 which was the going rate then for one from a decent breeders. That's just ridiculous.

Crate training lasted 1 night in daughters room, she got him out on the second night and pretty much stayed on her bed since. I'm not fussed about him on our beds, he's part of the family.

Used the puppy training pads (flat nappy things) to toilet train him. They were great. He soon got used to peeing on them and we just shifted the closer to the back door then outside and he went out from then on.

Was always a cat person and a bit meh on dogs, but when my 14 year old moggie passed, went for a dog under pressure from wife and daughter. Now I love him, amazing how many other dog owners stop and chat. Didn't realise it was a whole subculture.

We got our Cockapoo in Sept last year. The breeder had 9 of them and sold them all in a couple of days at 2 grand a pop (Cash naturally). That was also one of the cheapest - and only available - puppies we could find. The market has gone mad. I'd imagine in a years time if things are back to normal, the RSPCA will be full to over flowing.

 

[zefarelly]

We got our Cockapoo in Sept last year. The breeder had 9 of them and sold them all in a couple of days at 2 grand a pop (Cash naturally). That was also one of the cheapest - and only available - puppies we could find. The market has gone mad. I'd imagine in a years time if things are back to normal, the RSPCA will be full to over flowing.

This is a concern. I worked from home when 'we' got a dog and it was not my idea, I was against, because I knew exactly what was going to happen. Now MY dog is at home all day, fortunately Mrs Zef now works from home. The dog does not have the out and about lifestyle he had though, nor the morning walks every day.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Much excrement at neighbours' who are getting a puppy more like.

Slight amendment

 

[LamieRobertson]

He's allegedly Patterdale, but a bit tall, short haired, stubborn, determined and a lovely dog, a very good size too. He's nearly 6 and people still think he's a labrador puppy. He's good at football, and can head better than most current BHA players. View attachment 136198

Cute!

No Brighton kit..bit disappointing

 

[Dr Q]

We got our Cockapoo in Sept last year. The breeder had 9 of them and sold them all in a couple of days at 2 grand a pop (Cash naturally). That was also one of the cheapest - and only available - puppies we could find. The market has gone mad. I'd imagine in a years time if things are back to normal, the RSPCA will be full to over flowing.

Already happening. In our breed (German Shorthaired Pointers) the rescues are already seeing lots of new dogs coming in. No training (all the training clubs closed), Separation Anxiety and generally not socialised. Sadly its, going to get worse and Dogs Trust, RSPCA and all will get overwhelmed.

Always used crates/cages for my 3, all working GSPs. Big crates from a puppy, blankets over to create a cave like environment. Nice safe space where they can go for time outs and kip, but the doors were never closed. And never used as a punishment. As they got older they'd often lie on top of the cage. Routine at start was to get them up at two'ish in the morning for an outside toilet break. Always seemed to have had new pups in winter, so always a chore standing outside willing them on, but it always house trained them really quick. Now they sleep in different parts of the house, usually on the bedroom or landing floor. Happy Days

 

[Springal]

I have never used the crate as punishment, but perhaps have if the dog is overly excited or gets a bit bitey. Not often but in the evening I have found our 7 month old pup can get a bit irritable and will just be sat on the sofa and then become a bit bitey. He always has a range of chews and we do give him mental stimulation with a kong or similar as well as playing with him. Sometimes we put him in for 5-10 minutes to chill out and he seems OK but can't work out why he does it and if really should be putting him in the crate when he does it

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

I have never used the crate as punishment, but perhaps have if the dog is overly excited or gets a bit bitey. Not often but in the evening I have found our 7 month old pup can get a bit irritable and will just be sat on the sofa and then become a bit bitey. He always has a range of chews and we do give him mental stimulation with a kong or similar as well as playing with him. Sometimes we put him in for 5-10 minutes to chill out and he seems OK but can't work out why he does it and if really should be putting him in the crate when he does it

Ours does a bit of this, can growl a bit or even get a bit snappy. We've kind of worked out (with a bit of help) that basically he just wants to be left alone, doesn't want to be touched, or sat next to, and the growl is his communication to please leave me alone. Thought this was a good read 'the gift of a growl'. Sometimes the stimulation and everything is all too much and they just want to chill out, and we learn when to leave them be, the old 'let sleeping dogs lie' adage.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

This is a concern. I worked from home when 'we' got a dog and it was not my idea, I was against, because I knew exactly what was going to happen. Now MY dog is at home all day, fortunately Mrs Zef now works from home. The dog does not have the out and about lifestyle he had though, nor the morning walks every day.

We are lucky insomuch that my wife has worked at home for the past 10 years so a dog was something we thought about long before Covid. I was always reticent as I believed that the kids would be bored in a fortnight and it would become my dog like yours has become yours. To a certain extent, that is true. The kids want the cuddles on the sofa but can never be arsed to walk it or pick up its shit but they are better than I thought they would be. I also walk it 50/50 with my wife which is far better than I envisaged. Now my local boozer has opened, its more like 60/40. I like the fact it gives me an excuse to get out the house.

Back to the original point, we put it in the crate at night (moaned 1st night, never since barring the odd occasion) and it is happy to go in when we go to bed and considers the space its own. The last thing I wanted was a dog waking me up in the middle of the night jumping on my head or trying to join in when I'm feeling frisky. The crate works well. I think it also helps with separation anxiety as they are used to being on their own if you want to leave it alone for an hour or so.

 

[Springal]

Ours does a bit of this, can growl a bit or even get a bit snappy. We've kind of worked out (with a bit of help) that basically he just wants to be left alone, doesn't want to be touched, or sat next to, and the growl is his communication to please leave me alone. Thought this was a good read 'the gift of a growl'. Sometimes the stimulation and everything is all too much and they just want to chill out, and we learn when to leave them be, the old 'let sleeping dogs lie' adage.

Yeah we kind of figured that but sometimes he can be other end of the sofa, and then move up and do it, so maybe he’s a bit ‘guardy’ of one end of the sofa. He’s never really settled on his own mat or a bed on the floor so we’ve maybe made a bit of a rod for our backs by letting him on the sofa from a puppy

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Yeah we kind of figured that but sometimes he can be other end of the sofa, and then move up and do it, so maybe he’s a bit ‘guardy’ of one end of the sofa. He’s never really settled on his own mat or a bed on the floor so we’ve maybe made a bit of a rod for our backs by letting him on the sofa from a puppy

One thing I was told is don't play, train or do anything too stimulating in the lounge. Make the lounge for 'lounging' so the dog understands it's a settle space, not a room where loads of fun will happen. Sally Bradbury is a retired trainer, and with a vet, and some other behaviourists have a facebook group called Dog Training And Support (DTAS). They have 19 guides for various aspects of life with your dog. Amazing resource with a lot of links to specific things you might be experiencing. They then happily answer questions if you're still struggling with anything. It's worth a look if you are on FB.

How I manage to live in peace with a houseful of crazy Border Collies.
by Sally Bradbury
I have several dogs and very few rules but one that is very strictly upheld is that the lounge is for lounging in.
When we have a puppy I spend my evenings in the kitchen entertaining the puppy whilst hubby watches TV with the other dogs in the lounge. We do all our playing and training in the kitchen or outside. No toys in the lounge ever.
Over a period of approximately 6 - 10 weeks I can usually teach a puppy to settle on their bed in the kitchen for an increasing amount of time so that by the time the pup is 3 - 5 months old we can transfer that behaviour to being in the lounge. Of course it helps that all the others are setting an example.
In the beginning I'll be playing and training and teaching some impulse control and doing handling exercises, looking in ears, bit of grooming and this leads to some gentle massage and a settled pup. I might check FB on my phone for a minute whilst the pup is relaxed. A week later I might be able to reply to an email on my laptop whilst the pup is quiet on his bed.
We can then go and join the others in the lounge for a few minutes whilst pup is settled and this is gradually built up until walking into the lounge becomes the switch to settle.
I would never expect them to do this for longer than they can manage though. It is built up over several weeks.”

 

[AlbionBro]

My neighbours has two very large puppies, they are out of control everytime I see her jogging.
Is it etiquette to offer to get them under control?

 

[zefarelly]

Cute!

No Brighton kit..bit disappointing

He has one of Arthurs old shirt . . . . bit long, pissed on it!


@ Dr Q . . . . If we go out and leave Rocco on his own he always sits/sleeps on top of his crate rather than in it.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

My neighbours has two very large puppies, they are out of control everytime I see her jogging.
Is it etiquette to offer to get them under control?

Always be very gentle when handling someone else's puppies. They can get nippy if you're too rough with them. Once you have them under your control, your neighbour should be very happy.

 

[zefarelly]

We are lucky insomuch that my wife has worked at home for the past 10 years so a dog was something we thought about long before Covid. I was always reticent as I believed that the kids would be bored in a fortnight and it would become my dog like yours has become yours. To a certain extent, that is true. The kids want the cuddles on the sofa but can never be arsed to walk it or pick up its shit but they are better than I thought they would be. I also walk it 50/50 with my wife which is far better than I envisaged. Now my local boozer has opened, its more like 60/40. I like the fact it gives me an excuse to get out the house.

Back to the original point, we put it in the crate at night (moaned 1st night, never since barring the odd occasion) and it is happy to go in when we go to bed and considers the space its own. The last thing I wanted was a dog waking me up in the middle of the night jumping on my head or trying to join in when I'm feeling frisky. The crate works well. I think it also helps with separation anxiety as they are used to being on their own if you want to leave it alone for an hour or so.

Have you had, from the Mrs ' Strange how when I take the dog out he always walks to the pub . . .'

I said thats because he has doggie friends and they give him a treat.

 

[zefarelly]

Always be very gentle when handling someone else's puppies. They can get nippy if you're too rough with them. Once you have them under your control, your neighbour should be very happy.

I sold my old flat to a bitch on heat, she had cute little puppies and let me pet them, once they'd got use to being handled she even let me ride them.

 

[zefarelly]

heads up. training video for our players to watch. He can run and dribble like AK as well ( similar ability in looking up and crossing!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijippinl-4

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

heads up. training video for our players to watch. He can run and dribble like AK as well ( similar ability in looking up and crossing!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijippinl-4

Not a video for our cricketers though...

 

[zefarelly]

Not a video for our cricketers though...

Ha ha . . .my lad gave that up several years ago!