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Could any private company get away with being as inefficient as the ODPM?







Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
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No obviously not. But then a private company would be charging us through the nose for providing the planning 'service' and then would be cutting staff and working the remainder half to death in order to maximise the profit for it's shareholders - which is the sole reason it exists in the first place.
 










Staly

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Mar 30, 2004
1,078
Manchester
Plenty of private companies are much worse. Public companies are slow, private companies are quick but cut corners.

Er, massive generalisation there, obviously.
 


The "efficient" way to have dealt with the Albion planning application would have been to have read the Hoile report and announced a NO decision in January.

Thankfully, the ODPM doesn't work like that.
 


b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
5,193
... or read that now infamous report, and said "Yes" straight away, realising that it was riddled with errors...
 






b.w.2. said:
... or read that now infamous report, and said "Yes" straight away, realising that it was riddled with errors...

which would leave ODPM open to all sorts of problems, not least how to justify a decision that flew in the face of the reccomendation of his own inpector..................

judicial review anyone?
 


Skintagain 1983

And Smith Did Score!
Please don't put efficient and public sector in the same sentence... this always raises the spectre of tens of thousands of low paid frontline public service workers losing their jobs... only for there to be a sudden realisation after all, when nothing works, that perhaps the public sector wasn't quite so inefficient after all... :eek: :eek:


100,000 job losses, announced by our friend Mr Brown, :shootself from the Civil Service (40,000 in the Dept for Work & Pensions alone)... no-one left to pay pensions or collect child support!!! :nono: :nono


So we're on strike this Thursday and Friday! :angry: : :angry:
 




b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
5,193
Dear Storer68... sorry, but the amount of time this has taken is taking the pi$$, big time... and, no, you couldn't get away with it in the private sector... seeking comments on the comments... a fcuking farce... end of...

Dear Skintagain1983... good luck... Labour are now the Tories in disguise, IMHO...
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
74,048
'Could any private company get away with being as inefficient as the ODPM? '

Privatised Railways (Enemies Of The People) immediately spring to mind...
 


disgruntled h blocker

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Oct 16, 2003
819
Ampfield
The ODPM really are a joke. I was offered a job interview there earlier this year - a complete set-up! When waiting in an adjacent room before the interview, I actually heard what was going on with the earlier interview - it was the internal [other] candidate being told when they would start their new job :eek:

I have to conclude that a lot of advertised civil service jobs are just advertised to fit in with the amount of red-tape...
 








Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
Tom Hark said:
'Could any private company get away with being as inefficient as the ODPM? '

Privatised Railways (Enemies Of The People) immediately spring to mind...

This is not due to private companies running the railways, this is to do with the way the Tory party split the railways up. The private companies also inherited a massivly neglected railway system, why do you think they privatised it?

I actually think the trains are better now than they were when they were nationalised. They suffered massively for a while but now the tide is turning and things are getting much better. Complaints are now down 20% this year but of course that doesn't make the news...
 


Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
Skintagain 1983 said:
Please don't put efficient and public sector in the same sentence... this always raises the spectre of tens of thousands of low paid frontline public service workers losing their jobs... only for there to be a sudden realisation after all, when nothing works, that perhaps the public sector wasn't quite so inefficient after all... :eek: :eek:


100,000 job losses, announced by our friend Mr Brown, :shootself from the Civil Service (40,000 in the Dept for Work & Pensions alone)... no-one left to pay pensions or collect child support!!! :nono: :nono


So we're on strike this Thursday and Friday! :angry: : :angry:

Come off it, we all know that a lot (not all) of Publiuc sector jobs are manufactured to keep unemployment figures down. At the moment unemplyoyment is very low and so we are quite rightly shedding some fat from the public sector. When unemployment figures go up so will the number of public sector jobs.

When I was unemployed the numer of staff in the job centre often out numbered the number of 'customers' by 2-1 and we still had to queue!!

I have worked for companies that used to be public sector and they all agree that there is less money wasting and a need to use up budgets by the end of the year. Anyone else notice the amount of road works that spring up at the end of March?

I feel sorry for the people involved (I've been made redundant and I still have no job security) but I do believe it is for the greater good.
 




Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
Lord Bracknell said:
The "efficient" way to have dealt with the Albion planning application would have been to have read the Hoile report and announced a NO decision in January.

Thankfully, the ODPM doesn't work like that.

No. That would be the 'cut corners' way of doing things. The efficient way of doing things would be to hire a competent planning inspector that actually bothers to turn up and LISTEN at the public enquiry and also does some proper research in the first place.

Perhaps even, and this is a cRaZy. Trust the council's decision as they were ELECTED by the people it will effect the most and empower them to actually make decisions other than when our bins are collected.
 


Lammy said:
The private companies also inherited a massivly neglected railway system, why do you think they privatised it?

I do believe your 'cause and effect' scenario is wrong - in the sense that you have confused the cause with the effect and the effect with the cause.
 


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