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Yoda

English & European
Just been looking at that map and how the different regions voted.

Quite interesting really. (and pointless)

South East:
Cons: 74
Libs: 4
Lab: 3
Oth: 2

South West:
Cons: 36
Libs: 15
Lab: 4

London:
Labour: 38
Cons: 23
Libs: 7

Central England/East Anglia:
Cons: 50
Libs: 4
Lab: 2

Midlands:
Cons: 62
Lab: 38
Libs: 4

Northern England:
Lab: 105
Cons: 44
Libs: 9
Oth: 1

Wales:
Lab: 26
Cons: 8
Libs: 3
PC: 3

Scotland:
Lab: 41
Libs: 11
SNP: 5
Cons: 1

Northern Ireland:
Other: 12
SF: 5
Ind: 1
 




Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
18,824
Valley of Hangleton
That little haven of green unless I'm very much mistaken belongs to the
people of Brighton Pavilion Ward Chappers, Your little haven is blue lol
 






Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
It is more instructive if you change to the alternative view. Then all the constituencies are the same size.

It really does back up how reliant Labour are on Scotland and Wales. Under the current electoral system they would be in big trouble if Scotland got independence.
 


pork pie

New member
Dec 27, 2008
6,053
Pork pie land.
Just been looking at that map and how the different regions voted.

Quite interesting really. (and pointless)

South East:
Cons: 74
Libs: 4
Lab: 3
Oth: 2

South West:
Cons: 36
Libs: 15
Lab: 4

London:
Labour: 38
Cons: 23
Libs: 7

Central England/East Anglia:
Cons: 50
Libs: 4
Lab: 2

Midlands:
Cons: 62
Lab: 38
Libs: 4

Northern England:
Lab: 105
Cons: 44
Libs: 9
Oth: 1

Wales:
Lab: 26
Cons: 8
Libs: 3
PC: 3

Scotland:
Lab: 41
Libs: 11
SNP: 5
Cons: 1

Northern Ireland:
Other: 12
SF: 5
Ind: 1

Not pointless at all. It shows that England has voted for a Tory Government with a huge majority, but has been held back by the three celtic countries.
 














Eddie Bee

Active member
Feb 3, 2009
399
Shoreham by Sea
It is more instructive if you change to the alternative view. Then all the constituencies are the same size.

It really does back up how reliant Labour are on Scotland and Wales. Under the current electoral system they would be in big trouble if Scotland got independence.

As would we all!!
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
So true. And Labour ensure that we were not given that option when they gave it to their heartlands in Scotland and Wales.

Irrespective of the terms of the devolved government referendum in Scotland in 1997, a referendum for an independent Scotland at that time would almost certainly have failed, and only strengthened the Union.

The perverse thing you're saying is that the very policy at the heart of Conservative doctrine is the one you're advocating destroying to ensure a near-permanent Conservative majority.

You can't have it both ways.
 


pork pie

New member
Dec 27, 2008
6,053
Pork pie land.
Irrespective of the terms of the devolved government referendum in Scotland in 1997, a referendum for an independent Scotland at that time would almost certainly have failed, and only strengthened the Union.

The perverse thing you're saying is that the very policy at the heart of Conservative doctrine is the one you're advocating destroying to ensure a near-permanent Conservative majority.

You can't have it both ways.

My friend, we are now in a time of great compromise. If that includes a relaxation of views on the union, then maybe that would be a good idea, and benefit the english for a change?
 




The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
My friend, we are now in a time of great compromise. If that includes a relaxation of views on the union, then maybe that would be a good idea, and benefit the english for a change?

If you want to go firm and hard against one of the strongest and fundamental policies of the Conservative Party, you go ahead and campaign for it.

I'm just wondering if you've considered the consequences of cause-and-effect of jettisoning Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland from the Union would be, above and beyond simply what the colour of the rosettes are sitting on the Government benches in the House of Commons.
 




It is more instructive if you change to the alternative view. Then all the constituencies are the same size.

It really does back up how reliant Labour are on Scotland and Wales. Under the current electoral system they would be in big trouble if Scotland got independence.



Labour are the party of the cities and large towns, particularly the old industrial areas, whilst the Conservatives are the Party of Middle England.
 






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