Colin Kazim-Richards should have played today

[Debo]

same reason he didn't want to play at Bury probably. Try twisting that one into your blame culture

Not even gonna begin to debate the current issues.

But if you want to make statements I can answer right now about his time at Bury make sure you get you facts right.

If you want to know about bury I'll tell you. Yes Kaz had problems whilst in the youth team set up. This culminated with a banana being smeared all over his jacket and the skin hung on top of it. Kaz did not complain. The first team managers son James Barrow, saw and complained to his dad.

Kaz was then removed from the youth team set up and into the first team he made 10 appearances scored three goals and was then sold. He had a fantastic relationship with the management, Graham Barrow and Kelham O'Hanlon. He left Bury as he was OUT OF CONTRACT where has he said he did not want to play for Bury.

The above statement is fact and will happily face any challenge on its content.

I'm sure bury fans will be overjoyed that this has raised its head again, some people ( just like you Ice G) try to turn that occurance against him, saying Kaz has called Bury this or that. You call it what you want.

I just call it unacceptable

What do you call it?

Kaz is not the finnished article as a man let alone a footballer,he knows this more than anyone else.

But for those of you who keep saying whats he ever done? I think he's done just a little. Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwuhouUJ_A

How you get that out out of him all of the time, do you know cos I don't. But then were not managers are we.


Cheers
Uncle J

 

[Del Boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwuhouUJ_A

Makes good viewing, lets hope we see some more of that stuff this season!!

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Not even gonna begin to debate the current issues.

But if you want to make statements I can answer right now about his time at Bury make sure you get you facts right.

If you want to know about bury I'll tell you. Yes Kaz had problems whilst in the youth team set up. This culminated with a banana being smeared all over his jacket and the skin hung on top of it. Kaz did not complain. The first team managers son James Barrow, saw and complained to his dad.

Kaz was then removed from the youth team set up and into the first team he made 10 appearances scored three goals and was then sold. He had a fantastic relationship with the management, Graham Barrow and Kelham O'Hanlon. He left Bury as he was OUT OF CONTRACT where has he said he did not want to play for Bury.

The above statement is fact and will happily face any challenge on its content.

I'm sure bury fans will be overjoyed that this has raised its head again, some people ( just like you Ice G) try to turn that occurance against him, saying Kaz has called Bury this or that. You call it what you want.

I just call it unacceptable

What do you call it?

Kaz is not the finnished article as a man let alone a footballer,he knows this more than anyone else.

But for those of you who keep saying whats he ever done? I think he's done just a little. Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwuhouUJ_A

How you get that out out of him all of the time, do you know cos I don't. But then were not managers are we.


Cheers
Uncle J

Thanks for showing us what we are missing but i think the majority of Albion fans realise how good he can be, i just hope we can see him back in the squad soon.

 

[Brixtaan]

Interesting viewing.Obviously MM knows more about player development and team building than me but does there come a point as a manager when you have to accept that there's going to be an angry annoying tempestuous teenager (with an ego?) in the team and you have to cut him some slack and let him get on with it?
Come on Mark we need that confidence back.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Interesting viewing.Obviously MM knows more about player development and team building than me but does there come a point as a manager when you have to accept that there's going to be an angry annoying tempestuous teenager (with an ego?) in the team and you have to cut him some slack and let him get on with it?
Come on Mark we need that confidence back.

It all about hormones at that age i use to walk around with a lob on all day!

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Can understand why people are fed up with the arguments, but perhaps if a player (CKR or any other) was left out because of a perceived attitude problem, it might have a detrimental effect on team spirit if he was seen to come straight back without any hint of humility.

Never mind, McGhee, I'm concerned about the whole team, not just one player's gripes.

 

[Icy Gull]

Not even gonna begin to debate the current issues.

But if you want to make statements I can answer right now about his time at Bury make sure you get you facts right.

If you want to know about bury I'll tell you. Yes Kaz had problems whilst in the youth team set up. This culminated with a banana being smeared all over his jacket and the skin hung on top of it. Kaz did not complain. The first team managers son James Barrow, saw and complained to his dad.

Kaz was then removed from the youth team set up and into the first team he made 10 appearances scored three goals and was then sold. He had a fantastic relationship with the management, Graham Barrow and Kelham O'Hanlon. He left Bury as he was OUT OF CONTRACT where has he said he did not want to play for Bury.

The above statement is fact and will happily face any challenge on its content.

I'm sure bury fans will be overjoyed that this has raised its head again, some people ( just like you Ice G) try to turn that occurance against him, saying Kaz has called Bury this or that. You call it what you want.

I just call it unacceptable

What do you call it?

Kaz is not the finnished article as a man let alone a footballer,he knows this more than anyone else.

But for those of you who keep saying whats he ever done? I think he's done just a little. Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwuhouUJ_A

How you get that out out of him all of the time, do you know cos I don't. But then were not managers are we.


Cheers
Uncle J

I wasn't trying to turn it against CKR, just illustrating to the anti McGhee poster that I quoted that there have been problems in the past and it wasn't necessarily the managers fault on this occasion. What you say appears to throw a different light on that comment and I accept that, as you obviously are in the know.

For the record I'd love him to fulfil his potential at Brighton. I can only question, as a fan, the attitude, as I have interpreted from what I have seen on quite a few occasions, on the pitch. I would LOVE him to prove me wrong...next w/e maybe?

Edit: Of course what you state happened at Bury is totally unacceptable, I think you can take that as read from 99.9% of Brighton fans.

I also struggle to see how CKR is blameless in the current situation based on what I have seen of him on the pitch

 

[Brixtaan]

Thanks Mouldy,no-ones ever winked at me whilst talking about lob ons on nsc before.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Thanks Mouldy,no-ones ever winked at me whilst talking about lob ons on nsc before.

Gulp!

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I can understand the family wanting to defend CKR. And even Jam The Man, although the blind loyalty is starting to get slightly nauseating.

I know nothing about the background situation with him and McGhee. But what I do know is from the perspective of a fan who's watched the Albion for nearly 20 years.

I've seen a few great players, plenty of good ones, a stack of average ones, and a whole crock of complete shit. I like to think, as do most fans, that I can judge when someone's making an effort on the pitch.

As I say, the only thing I can reasonably judge CKR on is the performances I've seen him turn in during games. I think I'm entitled to that opinion at least. And frankly, a lot of them last season were sub standard.

CKR evidently has more ability than most in the team, yet he seems to waste it so much. I lost count of the number of times he challenged for balls in the air while looking straight at the defender and not the ball, and then got the arse with the referee who inevitably gave the obvious foul. How frustrating is that? It's not like we could afford to give it away any more than we did already.

Yes, there were a few nice goals, but there were also a lot of occasions when he seemed to fade after 60 minutes. 60 minutes! He's 19, not 36, how can you not be fit at that age?? Sometimes he just seems to expect things to happen for him, and not want to actually make them happen. None of that's the manager's fault, so whose is it?

I'm just saying what I (and plenty of other fans) see from the stand, and if that offends, so be it.

 

[Turkey]

I really want Colin to stay and score loads of goals for us.

At the moment though, I wouldn't put him in.

Revell and Hart are paramount to the current formation because they run their arses off closing the defenders down.

Our left sides attackers, Robinson, Cox, Frutos havent been as good in that area but CKR has to prove he's better than them too get in.

Jake his two goals and played great for us on Tuesday. Cox has done very well for us. A lot want Fruity involved too.

CKR has to earn his place now, just the way it should be too.

 

[Ernest]

Today Hart and Revell were absolutely crap up front and did not have a shot between them and to not even have Coke Zero on the bench is a disgrace

 

[Icy Gull]

. He left Bury as he was OUT OF CONTRACT where has he said he did not want to play for Bury.

J

If he was out of contract why did we give Bury a fee and a sell on clause? Was it to do with Bury having developed him?

 

[dougdeep]

I don't know about developing him, but he's certainly under-exposed down here.

 

[Jam The Man]

I can understand the family wanting to defend CKR. And even Jam The Man, although the blind loyalty is starting to get slightly nauseating.

You seem to think my balls are in my mother's purse? Comments like the above are beyond nauseating - they are insulting. I've come to my conclusions because of the content/information i've been told, not because of sway or persuasion. The following is NOT an attack on you personally EK, but I'd appreciate it if people paid me at least a smidgeon of respect at being an intelligent person who just wants to see a bit of fair play going on at his club. Not some ignorant, fickle, thick fan who hops from one side of the fence to the above depending on which way the popular vote is going.

 

[British Bulldog]

So does anybody know the real reason why CKR has put in a transfer request? (can't be bothered to trawl through all the threads about it)

It all seems a bit of a waste not having CKR in the squad at least.

 

[Del Boy]

If he was out of contract why did we give Bury a fee and a sell on clause? Was it to do with Bury having developed him?

Because of his age, the same thing that happened between us and leeds for dodgy dan.

 

[withdeanwombat]

When I was little,if you couldn't get a game for your club,you went and played for another one.

My hair is gone,my beard long and white.But under it all I believe CKR is like any other soccer mad youth.He wants a game,and probably believes he's better than those being picked.If he doesn't,he deserves to go and see the careers officer.

If he has upset the beak,then he has options open to him.Eat the transfer request with the humble pie,and show how good you are.

Keep the request in and hope someone will come in for you.You know,MK Dons,Swindon et al.

Bin the boots and do a proper job.