can we create an atmosphere like this?

[martin tyler]

Not really going to happen for a few reasons
1. We do not have safe standing
2. The north stand is split meaning we do not have just 1 voice
3. The north also seems to have a variety of supporters some this year seem less inclined to join in. Some people seem to be nore worried if there 10p accumulator is going to come in. ( you know who you are)

I like the idea of fans inputs into the flags and signs and that but we don t seem to be offered that input.

 

[severnside gull]

But if you take the seats out.
Maybe a stand with 4000 seats would have space for 5000 standing [on terracing] - so 90% of this would be 4,500.
This is 500 more so the price can be reduced to maintain financial equilibrium.

Results = more fans?

result = more hooliganism (leading to families voting with their feet) : increased operating costs (greater losses)

Seen it all before - one person's idea of fun is too often ten peoples' hell.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

But if you take the seats out.
Maybe a stand with 4000 seats would have space for 5000 standing [on terracing] - so 90% of this would be 4,500.
This is 500 more so the price can be reduced to maintain financial equilibrium.

Results = more fans?

The club would need new planning permission and besides, the North simply can't cope with 1k more people, there is no room to expand it.

Though simply converting what is currently there to safe standing with the same capacity is more likely.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

result = more hooliganism (leading to families voting with their feet) : increased operating costs (greater losses)

Seen it all before - one person's idea of fun is too often ten peoples' hell.

what are you basing this on exactly?

 

[easynow]

what are you basing this on exactly?

Visit munich on a match day.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Visit munich on a match day.

is whatever happens there a result of terracing?

 

[ees complicated no?]

result = more hooliganism (leading to families voting with their feet) : increased operating costs (greater losses)

Seen it all before - one person's idea of fun is too often ten peoples' hell.

No the result would be families move out of the North stand and into the family stand, oldies who just sit there and don't do nothing move to the west, there would not be an increase in hooliganism just more passion from the fans & a better atmosphere.

 

[Taybha]

Typical Germans nicking our " Your going home in a sussex ambulance " @ 1min 47 seconds

 

[Davemania]

Germans love a choreographed, mass gathering. Can see why the nazis took off so well

 

[TheMajor]

Quite. The next thing you know you'll be dressing all in black, getting a police escort to home games, making calls about games based on radio commentary, banging a drum and getting a degree in semaphore and banner making. Might as well move to Croydump.

Why no mention of the goal music ? oh I forgot - no goals !

 

[severnside gull]

what are you basing this on exactly?

1970's
1980"s
1990's

the decline of football pre-SKYtv largely triggered by hooliganism on a mass scale and governments' reaction to it. Numbers attending declined - ground capacities reduced - standing outwawed - post match kettling by police and bubble policing.............

By actively encouraging families, American style commercialisation, debt culture, and embracing tv, football has come back from the brink and is flourishing but the initial cause of its near terminal decline was hooliganism.

Safe standing and banter go hand in hand for me as (potentially) excuses to justify behaviour which is universally seen as unacceptable in any arena other than football......not everyone but too many

 

[banjo]

We can't even sing GOSBTS together let alone anything else!! But then we're not German either!

Vorsprung durch technic.