Can someone explain the US election process to me...

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Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
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saaf of the water
don't forget less than a half of American citizens who are of voting age actually have registered and are eligible to vote.

it really is one of the most undemocratic systems in the world.

THat was going to be my question - do you actually have to be a member of the Democrat /Republican Party to vote for any potential Leader? If you do what does the term independant voter mean?
 




Trufflehound

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Aug 5, 2003
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People spend 11 months deciding whether Clinton or Obama is the best candidate. Then everyone without a job or white skin is declared a criminal and ineligible to vote, and John McCain is announced as the winner.

Dick Cheney will then assume back-seat control and continue f***ing the word up for another 8 years.

Hope that helps.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
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When it comes to the Presidential Elections themselves, they operate a College System. Basically, the winner of each state gains that number of points allocated to the state (based on the number of senators in that state. The winner of the Presidential election is the first candidate to get 270 points.

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Oct 25, 2003
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in terms of the actual election:

each state is worth a certain amount of 'points' depending on the population (california is worth 50-odd, whereas montana, wyoming etc. are only worth a few),

most states employ a first-past-the-post system (i believe a few are moving to other systems) so the winner of a state gets all of the points that that state is worth

the winner is the candidate with the most points
 


When it comes to the Presidential Elections themselves, they operate a College System. Basically, the winner of each state gains that number of points allocated to the state. The winner of the Presidential election is the first candidate toget 270 points.

Thats pretty much how the president is chosen. I know bit of this cos im doing Gov & Pol AS, & while we are learning about UK politics atm & how our electoral system is f***** up, our teacher explained that to us.

Gore got the most states, but Bush's states unfortunatley tallied up more points due to republicans holding bigger states with more votes :censored:
 






Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
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what is the equaivalant to the labour party , conservatives over there

Must admit i hat hillary clinton with a passion and I've no idea why
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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you sure?

pretty sure bush won basically EVERYTHING in the middle..........gore only really won the north east states and the west coast

what won it for bush was winning florida surely

The election in 2000 was the closest ever election result (271-266), plus it was only the fourth time when the winner didn't get the most votes.

http://www.270towin.com/

Select the 2000 results, and you'll see what happened.

The result in Florida was so drawn out it became a farce. Both sides took everything to court, including the Democrats do something wild like insisting that the votes were actually COUNTED. But the courts rejected that idea. Democracy, eh?

Incidentally, Buzzer would have been pleased with the 1972 election result. Almost a clean sweep for his hero, Richard Nixon - 520-17. Still, even Ronnie can beat that, he beat Walter Mondale in 1984 by 525-13.
 
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There are also minor parties as well:
The Green Party
Constitution Party
Libertarian Party
Prohibition Party
Socialist Party
Socialist Workers Party
Unity08 Party

plus 20 or so independents

None of which has a prayer of getting in power, they only influence the candidacy by distracting votes away from the main parties. Mostly, they'll take votes off the Democarats I reckon, so they exist to serve the Republicans rather well.

It illustrates what's wrong about a multiple party system really, instead of what would be hoped - that it might maintain options and ultimately balance.
The American public are fairly polarised, and the Republicans on the whole a load of opinionated self-righteous hypocrites that can't think past the $ sign and what it all means to them.
 






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