[Football] Can a penalty be woke?

[Fungus]

Assuming he does mean they're shit, I'm totally down with the actual opinion. Stuttered penalties should f*** right off.

When you say “shit”, what does that actually mean? “Good shit” or “bad shit”?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

According to Sunderland's Chris Rigg, yes:

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Among the thicker more right wing elements of the working class youth, 'woke' seems to have become an adjective of derision, rather like 'gay' was 30 years ago.

 

[The Optimist]

Among the thicker more right wing elements of the working class youth, 'woke' seems to have become an adjective of derision, rather like 'gay' was 30 years ago.

Does that represent progress? Is being anti-woke better than being homophobic?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Really?

Sometimes I worry about you

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Does that represent progress? Is being anti-woke better than being homophobic?

Same old....."let's latch on to a word to ridicule people and ideas we know nothing about".

(I am saddened that at least one person posting on this thread seems to think that "woke" is so obviously bad that anyone not knowing that is a bit weird).

 

[AmexRuislip]

Does this mean Ulloa's penalty was intergalactically woke

 

[Oh_aye]

Penalties smashed down the middle are Brexit?

Placed hard and to the right

 

[5Ways Gull]

'Woke' is the latest attempt to discredit and delegitimise socially progressive values or commitment to fairness and equal treatment, just as 'loony Left' and 'political correctness' were used as terms of abuse or ridicule in the 1980s and 1990s.

A perfect summary, thank you!

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

According to AI (and I think it’s fairly accurate)

"Woke" generally means being aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, particularly those related to social justice and racial equality. It originated in African American English as a term to describe awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination, often in the construction "stay woke". While initially used by activists within the Black community, the term has gained wider mainstream use, but its meaning and interpretation have evolved.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• • Original Meaning:
    In African American English, "woke" meant being alert and aware of social injustice, particularly racial injustice.
  • Mainstream Use:
    Over time, "woke" has been adopted by a wider audience to describe awareness of social and political issues, including racial and gender equality.
  • Political Interpretation:
    The term has also become a point of political contention, with some using it negatively to label socially liberal ideas or individuals as overly sensitive or politically correct.
  • Right-wing Criticism:
    Right-wing groups often use "woke" in a derogatory sense to criticize progressive or liberal viewpoints, often implying that those who identify as "woke" are out of touch with reality or excessively concerned with social justice.

There was a radio 4 programme on about a year ago ( I can’t stand Jeremy Vine and switch channels when he is on) regarding the history of “Woke“ and the above is spot on.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Really?

Sometimes I worry about you

i’m fine thanks but thank you for your concern and I hope likewise

 

[smillie's garden]

Yet in my experience, it is Right-wingers/Brexitters/Tory-tabloid-readers and Farage/Trump worshippers who are over-sensitive, easily 'triggered', and permanently offended, who want to ban/sack/silence any public figure (Gary Lineker, Chris Packham, etc) whose views they don't like, and who wallow in their sense of persecution and playing the victim - even while accusing 'Woke' of Cancel Culture and silencing free-speech. They really don't see the irony or hypocrisy of their shouting 'It shouldn't be allowed' or 'S/He should be sacked for saying such things publicly'.

'Woke' is the latest attempt to discredit and delegitimise socially progressive values or commitment to fairness and equal treatment, just as 'loony Left' and 'political correctness' were used as terms of abuse or ridicule in the 1980s and 1990s.

The sound of angry, ageing, embittered Right-wingers raging against the dying of the light.

Not to mention that the derisive use of woke really picked up on the US right wing around the time of the anti-police brutality protests in 2020. The word was used as a racist dog-whistle as it uses Black American vernacular rather than the tense used in standard English. Even though woke was not widely used as a descriptor among progressives, it was co-opted to mock such movements as Black Lives Matter.

It is unclear to me whether the reactionary use of woke was orchestrated, but in my experience many things that appear spontaneous and “grassroots” on the right often end up being amplified and funded by some oligarch or other, if the money is followed.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Not to mention that the derisive use of woke really picked up on the US right wing around the time of the anti-police brutality protests in 2020. The word was used as a racist dog-whistle as it uses Black American vernacular rather than the tense used in standard English. Even though woke was not widely used as a descriptor among progressives, it was co-opted to mock such movements as Black Lives Matter.

It is unclear to me whether the reactionary use of woke was orchestrated, but in my experience many things that appear spontaneous and “grassroots” on the right often end up being amplified and funded by some oligarch or other, if the money is followed.

Indeed, and for another example, if you consider it concerning that Andrew Tate is popular among teenage boys despite his attitude to women and being investigated and charged for rape, then you are 'woke'.

I seem to recall before his final dismissal, the oaf who posted as 'das Reich' invoked another term he'd read on a right wing website, 'soy boy', to refer to someone who showed a bit of empathy.

The sooner these people are acquainted with a metaphorical wood chipper the better.