Brazil - are they off the boil?

[BHA Jordan]

The aussies have more than impressed me so far, and were v.unlucky against that well up for it team from Brazil.

Could produce a few shocks if they do make it past the group stages

 

[enigma]

i don't think croatia or australia are particularly bad teams?

they've looked fairly OK in their games

They aren't. I agree with you.

 

[Grendel]

i don't think croatia or australia are particularly bad teams?

But nor are they particularly good.

Anyway, this is all a bit beside the point I was making that Brazil don't always start slowly.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

For all I know (or indeed care), Cambodia might be a fantastically organised side. They're still shit, though.

True. They don't even appear to have qualified for the first round stage of the Asian World Cup qualifying. A stage that saw the might of Laos, Chinese Taipei, Yemen, The Maldives and all sorts of 'stans'...

http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/wc2006/q-groups/asia.html

 

[Grendel]

True. They don't even appear to have qualified for the first round stage of the Asian World Cup qualifying. A stage that saw the might of Laos, Chinese Taipei, Yemen, The Maldives and all sorts of 'stans'...

http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/wc2006/q-groups/asia.html

Apparently they didn't even bother to enter. Hardly surprising when you consider that they lost 6-0 to The Maldives in qualifying for the 2002 tournament.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Apparently they didn't even bother to enter. Hardly surprising when you consider that they lost 6-0 to The Maldives in qualifying for the 2002 tournament.

Well, to be fair, I've heard The Maldives are very well organised...

 

[philgull25]

They scored 11 goals in the group stage at the last world cup.

against costa rica, china and turkey

9 of which were against china and cost rica...even germany scored 4 against them and china didnt even qualify! calm down much more to see

 

[philgull25]

everyone seems to forget England beat the Argies recently, in a not too friendly, friendly game.

when they took off their best players

 

[Charles 'Charley' Charles]

Can someone tell me what Robbie Carlos brings to the party apart wasting most of the freekicks he takes?

Having been lucky enough to see Carlos play for Real Madrid (Beckham's first season there) I don't think I've ever seen someone run as much as he did. It was literally non stop, as you know is sometimes difficult to gauge on tele how much ground someone covers, as all you see is a maximum of a third of the pitch at a time. His link up play is exceptional, and the rest of his team mates know there is always an outlet on the left for them. That said yes he does waste all the free kicks he takes, and is living off the one he scored at Le Tournoir sp. Flip side of the coin is Ronaldo is probably the laziest player I've ever seen, very little running and seemed his job was to win free kicks on the edge of the box for (then) Beckham to take. The really annoying thing about him is that he does have so much talent, and used to have the pace to go with it, although not sure about that now.

 

[crodonilson]

Brazil: Vinicius Jr and co humiliated by Argentina - analysis

South American football writer Tim Vickery analyses what is going wrong for Brazil following their 4-1 defeat by Argentina.

www.bbc.com

Sad times for the international games true super power. A World Cup without the dizzying skills and Samba beat of Brazil is quite simply unthinkable. Like most on NSC I have grown up to adore the Brazilian football side, lets hope they can turn it around in the next 15 months.

 

[pigmanovich]

Brazil: Vinicius Jr and co humiliated by Argentina - analysis

South American football writer Tim Vickery analyses what is going wrong for Brazil following their 4-1 defeat by Argentina.

www.bbc.com

Sad times for the international games true super power. A World Cup without the dizzying skills and Samba beat of Brazil is quite simply unthinkable. Like most on NSC I have grown up to adore the Brazilian football side, lets hope they can turn it around in the next 15 months.

Realistically, they're qualifying for the World Cup - have you seen the table?

 

[crodonilson]

Realistically, they're qualifying for the World Cup - have you seen the table?

Six points clear, they should be fine but the World Cup needs a strong Brazil. It's not just about getting there, it's entertaining and winning when they get there.

 

[pigmanovich]

Six points clear, they should be fine but the World Cup needs a strong Brazil. It's not just about getting there, it's entertaining and winning when they get there.

You would think the chance is there for Pedro to establish himself in the side but it doesn't sound as though he impressed against Colombia

 

[Berty23]

Far be it from me to say this as a Brighton fan but when you have a Brighton player as your number 9 it suggests you are not a world dominant power. But then a Brighton player turned the World Cup campaign for Argentina so maybe I need to accept we are decent now.

 

[lawros left foot]

Don’t worry,@crodonilson , Igor will be back soon.

 

[Washie]

Brazil: Vinicius Jr and co humiliated by Argentina - analysis

South American football writer Tim Vickery analyses what is going wrong for Brazil following their 4-1 defeat by Argentina.

www.bbc.com

Sad times for the international games true super power. A World Cup without the dizzying skills and Samba beat of Brazil is quite simply unthinkable. Like most on NSC I have grown up to adore the Brazilian football side, lets hope they can turn it around in the next 15 months.

Just like how there should be a Leeds or Sheffield Wednesday in the premier league?

 

[MTSeagulls]

They need a proper coach IMO, not a journeyman one who has won a couple of cups with Sao Paulo and Flamengo.
I watched it last night, and they were Miles away from Argentina's standards, but I'm not sure the quality of player is the problem.
Saying that the defence was awful and there must be a better GK for them than one from the Saudi league, Weverton at Palmeiras for example.

 

[Jeremiah]

Far be it from me to say this as a Brighton fan but when you have a Brighton player as your number 9 it suggests you are not a world dominant power. But then a Brighton player turned the World Cup campaign for Argentina so maybe I need to accept we are decent now.

The Worlds gone crazy - Palace players scoring for England , Brighton players winning the World Cup - whatever next ?

 

[dejavuatbtn]

I have to say, much as I like him, Pedro is way short of my expectations of a Brazilian centre forward.

 

[Beanstalk]

Big Don Carlo being helicoptered in to lead the Brazilians into the 2026 World Cup apparently...