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Borough run in permutations







sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,533
Hove
Again though, it's pure speculation what impact this will have - they also have three days more worrying about it.

It does seem somewhat unfair though, given that we also have to spend one of those days travelling up there - so they really have four more days.


Three more days to run the 'just turn up to win' scenario through their heads and mess with their preparation.
 


Blue_Boy

New member
Apr 26, 2016
55
North Of The Wall
From browsing various forums of our rivals Boro seem to be showing more signs of panic. They've had an upturn in mood & are buoyed on hearing that Birmingham are likely to be without Kuszczak, Eardley, Maghoma and Torel through injury whilst Caddis is a doubt. Kieftenbeld could return but that's still a lot of regular & influential players out

Not to worry though as Gary Rowett assures us "We’ll have fewer players to choose from and perhaps fewer options but we’ll put out as strong a team as we’re capable of doing and we’ll still feel that that team is good enough to get a result."

I'm not sure I take a lot of comfort from a manager of a team facing rivals of ours in such a big game saying they'll put out as strong a team as they can & will give it their best shot. It's ok saying they'll field a team that should be capable of a result but a defeat is a result. We'd like at least a draw if possible Gaz.

It'll still go to the last game in my view & an away win. We don't need favours
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,828
Manchester
Whatever the result on Friday, we will be trying to put as many past Derby as we can, whilst conceding none.

Actually, it could make a huge difference to how we approach the game, particularly in the second half. If Boro draw, then there is no difference to us between a loss or a draw, so you could well see us throwing caution to the wind to try and get a winner in injury time. Alternatively, if Boro lose 1-0 and we find ourselves 2-0 up in the dying minutes, you'd probably have the odd situation of Stockdale going up to attack corners or free-kicks despite having the gam more or less won. If Boro win by a couple, then we'd be as happy with a 0-0 draw as a 3-0 win, so would probably be winding the clock down and making defensive subs etc. to settle for the point if it was all square.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,971
Crawley
Actually, it could make a huge difference to how we approach the game, particularly in the second half. If Boro draw, then there is no difference to us between a loss or a draw, so you could well see us throwing caution to the wind to try and get a winner in injury time. Alternatively, if Boro lose 1-0 and we find ourselves 2-0 up in the dying minutes, you'd probably have the odd situation of Stockdale going up to attack corners or free-kicks despite having the gam more or less won. If Boro win by a couple, then we'd be as happy with a 0-0 draw as a 3-0 win, so would probably be winding the clock down and making defensive subs etc. to settle for the point if it was all square.


No, we need to win against Derby, and win big. It could come down to Burnleys results and GD
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
2,955
Uckfield
No, we need to win against Derby, and win big. It could come down to Burnleys results and GD

Assume you're talking about prospects for winning the title with that?

Given that in terms of gaining an auto promotion, there aren't many permutations where Burnley finish 3rd and both us and Boro get autos. Burnley are in the box seat to claim one of the autos, the other is between us and Boro and the maths say we can lose against Derby and still go up by giving Boro a spanking. Burnley would be choking big time if they fail to secure an auto from here.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,971
Crawley
Assume you're talking about prospects for winning the title with that?

Given that in terms of gaining an auto promotion, there aren't many permutations where Burnley finish 3rd and both us and Boro get autos. Burnley are in the box seat to claim one of the autos, the other is between us and Boro and the maths say we can lose against Derby and still go up by giving Boro a spanking. Burnley would be choking big time if they fail to secure an auto from here.

No I am not talking just about top spot. We can all win one and draw one, or win one and lose one. In either case, goal difference will decide it, and Boro may well have got one up in front of Burnley.
 














drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,072
Burgess Hill
I'm sure CH will purely be focusing on a win on Monday irrespective of the Brum/Boro score. Not to do so would hand the advantage to Burnley.
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
2,955
Uckfield
No I am not talking just about top spot. We can all win one and draw one, or win one and lose one. In either case, goal difference will decide it, and Boro may well have got one up in front of Burnley.

Well, it's all changed now anyway. Simple equation: we win vs Boro and we're up. We don't win and we go into the play offs lottery.

As it was back when we made the earlier posts, though, of all the permutations the ones that would have had us needing to have a better GD than Burnley were the least likely - would have required Boro to beat Birmingham by more than 1, the Burnley win to be by only 1 (as it was in the end), and us to absolutely smash Derby. It was so unlikely to eventuate that I very much doubt it ever crossed Hughton's mind.
 




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